Some information about TT
Dylan 07 May 2009
Just found some of the below information around - hopefully it helps some one out!
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With Subaru 2-stage turbo system. When it comes time to spool up the secondary turbo, exhaust must be diverted from the primary turbo. This is just like opening the wastegate - boost pressure and torque drop. Eventually the secondary turbo is producing the same boost pressure as the primary and it's put online and things are good.
There are some headers on the market that will allow you to run a parallel setup, however I have not heard of many people performing this mod to standard 2L B4's or GT's / GTB's in the Gen2's.
Here's an official description of how the last iteration of Subaru's 2-stage turbo system works:
63749.pdf 394.86KB 21 downloads
And here's a description of an earlier version:
http://web.archive.o...Engine_spec.htm
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With Subaru 2-stage turbo system. When it comes time to spool up the secondary turbo, exhaust must be diverted from the primary turbo. This is just like opening the wastegate - boost pressure and torque drop. Eventually the secondary turbo is producing the same boost pressure as the primary and it's put online and things are good.
There are some headers on the market that will allow you to run a parallel setup, however I have not heard of many people performing this mod to standard 2L B4's or GT's / GTB's in the Gen2's.
Here's an official description of how the last iteration of Subaru's 2-stage turbo system works:
63749.pdf 394.86KB 21 downloads
And here's a description of an earlier version:
http://web.archive.o...Engine_spec.htm
Soop 07 May 2009
what happens when the primary is getting a butt load of boost at 7000rpm?
what happens when the secondry is getting FCUK ALL at 6000rpm?
Dylan 07 May 2009
Mate, not sure of the specifics, theory or results of any of this - I am not a TT expert, nor do I claim to be. I just hoped that this information would be of some assistance to TT owners!
XXB4XX 08 May 2009
That description pretty much sums up what I used to feel..
The parralell setup would be fantastic.. IF, both turbines were the same size..
having each turbo a different size, and different max RPM just wouldn't work as meant to..
The 2nd turb would lag on one side, while the smaller was firing up, and then at top rev the smaller would die and the larger would keep pushing.. hence why they are sequential..
but then again I ain't no engineer.. i'm working off what I think would happen..
But having 2 VF32's would be the hum-dinger.. or.. having 1 Garrett T03 High flowed would be even better!!
(Maybe even a T76 if you have a 14,000 rpm Boxer motor.. lol)
This is a T76 - http://www.mjmturbos.../images/T76.jpg
The parralell setup would be fantastic.. IF, both turbines were the same size..
having each turbo a different size, and different max RPM just wouldn't work as meant to..
The 2nd turb would lag on one side, while the smaller was firing up, and then at top rev the smaller would die and the larger would keep pushing.. hence why they are sequential..
but then again I ain't no engineer.. i'm working off what I think would happen..
But having 2 VF32's would be the hum-dinger.. or.. having 1 Garrett T03 High flowed would be even better!!
(Maybe even a T76 if you have a 14,000 rpm Boxer motor.. lol)
This is a T76 - http://www.mjmturbos.../images/T76.jpg
Richo 08 May 2009
Can you not remap the ECU to open the exhaust gas vaulve sooner and stop venting boooost from the 2nd turbo ?
Soop 08 May 2009
Fairly sure its a mechanical valve man, not a solenoid. Could be wrong though!
Fairly sure its a mechanical valve man, not a solenoid. Could be wrong though!
Billsy 17 May 2009
its a mechanical valve thats operated by an electronic solenoid.Fairly sure its a mechanical valve man, not a solenoid. Could be wrong though!
Fairly sure its a mechanical valve man, not a solenoid. Could be wrong though!
FYI, i am now running a 2.2 with parallel equal sized turbos, basically drives like a single. made 217kw @17psi on stock untuned ecu.
Billsy 17 May 2009
im running ported vf26/27 at the mo, the 26 has a modified secondary housing from a vf19 and im running en external wastegateWhat turbos are you running Billsy?
this is a temporary setup, ive got a garrett GT17 and a truck turbo to bolt on to it