31 replies to this topic

[Shaz]

I was 100% on the "no manual no care" bandwagon, but now, I'm kinda flipping and warming to the auto. (Sydney traffic especially) However, it has to be responsive and nimble, and not sluggish. I'll give it a test run when it comes out before I pass judgement I think.

[Liberty]

Nothing wrong with an automatic at all.

Actually my old boy considered the new Outback but said it was too big

That's what she said.

[Sven Smergberd]

Yeah, there's one in my apartment carpark, they are looong, and quite wide. Reminiscent of the bigger Euro SUVs.

 

Makes my Foz look like a Jimny. 

[zahmad]

Ah yeah, there ya go. 

Have you driven a Subaru CVT zahmad? I'm interested to know what it's like. Kong actually says his is brilliant in his little Impreza.

 

I have, we have a Gen V 2.5 CVT Outback in the family. They are more of a Gen 1 CVT from Subaru so throttle response is a bit slow. You have to drive it differently to an automatic to get the most out of it in terms of fuel economy.

[andrew_k]

CVT is a good option, but making it the only option is unfortunate for an upspec'd turbo subaru.

[comport3]

Is the engine the same as the WRX? What does the tuning potential look like? If it can hit 200kW ATW on stock turbo/intervals i can forgive the CVT


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[Robbks]

 

I have, we have a Gen V 2.5 CVT Outback in the family. They are more of a Gen 1 CVT from Subaru so throttle response is a bit slow. You have to drive it differently to an automatic to get the most out of it in terms of fuel economy.

It's SUbaru's Throttle mapping which is a bit slow, not a CVT issue as such
Easy fixed with ECU tuning

[Robbks]

You are bang on that the newest Outback is hawt Jimbo. Compared to the shitty Outback based on the Gen V Liberty the newest model looks solid, if I were to buy a newer Subaru I'd be picking up a 3.6 Outback and not the Levorg.

 

That being said, the Levorg looks great. I acknowledge it's still very WRX, but to be honest the Liberty is now so huge, a Liberty wagon would need a lot of grunt to be considered a sports model. Add to that Subaru have discontinued turbo Libertys. So really your performance Liberty wagon will now be the Outback.

The Levorg is pretty much the same size as the Gen4 Liberty, and Almost at good looking.

I'd take a Levorg any day of the week,
Add some Forester Suspension and All Terrains..

[Sean Clohesy]

Took the GT-S for a good drive today in the Yarra Valley. Awesome, I want it

[Bumpty]

Touched myself this arvo. Very nice.

[andrew_k]

Also touched Bumpty this arvo. Stock mapping lacks throttle response. Such is the way in this new Drive By Wire world.

[STI_Tom]

My concern with the CVT is power loss through the system, as well as reliability/overheating issues that can arise when pushing them hard on a track.

 

The only CVT cars I've ever driven felt like an auto with slipping clutch packs, and fork all power made it to the wheels while it was adjusting its ratios (which is pretty much 90% of the time).

 

I'd assume Subaru has tuned the CVT into the SI drive so it holds rpm on a track, would be nothing worse than it going back to an overdrive ratio while taking a long sweeping bend or while braking.