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#1 Liberty

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:18 PM

So I'd like to start my Suby journey by getting myself a Liberty. I'm thinking of not going any earlier then the 2006 model, but am always open to suggestions of course. My budget is around the $15,000 mark and I am unable to drive turbocharged vehicles till October next year (but want and need a car now so please avoid telling me to wait another year).

Warning: Below you might find some noob questions. Be patient and bare with me. I've been a Holden owner ever since getting my license and never looked into anything else till now at my immensely mature age of 24. *end sarcasm* :ph34r:

I assume it'd be easier (for reference purposes) to number my questions?
  • Where can I find a specific hierarchical list of Subaru Liberty's say from 2004 onwards? Reason I ask this is because I'm aiming at buying a model that's higher up in the chain, something like the Calais and up equivalent in Commodore terms. It'd be good to have some pics too as I'm much more familiar with the look of a Liberty rather then a set of letters and numbers that distinguish one from another. Possibly a link to a site other then Wikipedia for this information?
  • Am I being realistic with setting a budget of $15,000?
  • Is this budget too much (doubtful, but a good question in my opinion!) for what I'm after?
  • If you require uses for the car then it'll be my everyday drive both for personal use and driving to and from work, I'd like to progressively modify it, I'll be keeping it for some time, I love driving, etc. Along those lines. I want to have reliability, performance as well as excitement and fun all mixed into one package.
  • In regards to running costs, services, parts, etc, are they gonna be high, moderate or low when compared to other Suby's and/or brands? Feel free to compare genuine Subaru parts as opposed to aftermarket products.
  • What is the best colour? I'm thinking charcoal or black.
  • What puts a Liberty on top of any other car for a guy around my age? Before making up my mind and going for a Liberty I had my heart set on getting a Nissan Silvia S15.

I'll definitely have more questions as they come to me but for now this is all I've got. Can't wait to hear from everyone!

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:58 PM

1. Where can I find a specific hierarchical list of Subaru Liberty's say from 2004 onwards? Reason I ask this is because I'm aiming at buying a model that's higher up in the chain, something like the Calais and up equivalent in Commodore terms. It'd be good to have some pics too as I'm much more familiar with the look of a Liberty rather then a set of letters and numbers that distinguish one from another. Possibly a link to a site other then Wikipedia for this information?


Sounds like you're after a Gen 4. They hit the showroom floor in 2003 and the same shape continued until 2006. In 07, there was a facelift and the Gen 4 continued until 2009. (Gen 5 was released in 2010).

The models confuse me no end to be honest! They brought out a 2.0 model which was completely gutless, had 16" rims and was the only Gen 4 that didn't come with foglights. Having a look through CarSales now though and there are plenty of 2.0 Gen 4's with foggies and the much nicer 17s... Maybe it's the difference between '2.0 AWD' and '2.0R'?

So that's the underpowered 4 cyl Lib... There are plenty of reasonably powered Gen 4's too. Most of them are have the 2.5 engine which is much better suited. The only Gen 4 I've ever driven was an 05 manual 2.5 sedan and it was well quick for what it is! In the 2.5 range, there is a 'Safety Pack', 'Heritage', 'Premium Pack', and various 'Sports' models. The 'B' in spec.B stands for Bilstein - referring to the sportier shocks.

Then there is the 3.0 (6 cyl) range. I reckon these are great cars but there's obviously a case here and there about people having endless dramas with them. Within the 3.0 range, there is the standard 3.0R, 3.0R Premium, 3.0R spec.B, and the 3.0R Blitzen (special edition). The 3.0R spec.B is probably similar to the Calais? They're quite luxury but still NA and P plate legal. The manual spec.B's have the STi 6 sp gear box too which is awesome.

Then there is the GT's. The early GTs look like they're 2.0 while the later, facelifted ones are 2.5. The GT also had a spec.B variant which are sexy, sexy cars! Also, a select amount of GT spec.B's were taken to Docklands Subaru in Melbourne and given a few extra goodies (wheels, front lip, badges, plus more) which was dubbed the 'Tuned by STi'. Only 200-250 of these were made each year between 06 and 09 I think?

2. Am I being realistic with setting a budget of $15,000?

$15k is plenty for a Gen 4. They seem to be getting very cheap these days. You might have be patient to get the right one (low kays, service history, not crashed, etc) but one will eventually come up!

3. Is this budget too much (doubtful, but a good question in my opinion!) for what I'm after?


Depends on what models you go for... Some higher km GTs are around the $15k mark but the 3.0s are still more towards the $20k mark.

4. If you require uses for the car then it'll be my everyday drive both for personal use and driving to and from work, I'd like to progressively modify it, I'll be keeping it for some time, I love driving, etc. Along those lines. I want to have reliability, performance as well as excitement and fun all mixed into one package.


Not really a question..?

That's pretty much what we're all doing here. We modify our cars and drive them? Sometimes it's a love/hate thing but it's always good fun :)

5. In regards to running costs, services, parts, etc, are they gonna be high, moderate or low when compared to other Suby's and/or brands? Feel free to compare genuine Subaru parts as opposed to aftermarket products


Won't be as cheap as your Commodores but it's no Euro car. Genuine Parts are sometiems necessary but usually overrated. You can get just as decent, if not better parts from Bursons or similar. It's important to keep your car well maintained but no need to spend more than $40 on a bottle of oil.

6. What is the best colour? I'm thinking charcoal or black.


Completely subjective.

If you like charcoal/black, go for it!

7. What puts a Liberty on top of any other car for a guy around my age? Before making up my mind and going for a Liberty I had my heart set on getting a Nissan Silvia S15.


I'm 22 and on my third Subaru. For the money you spend, you get a great package. They're reliable, safe, relatively cheap to buy and maintain, plenty of spare parts flying around and aftermarket parts to slap on. AWD, power everything (even in the first Liberty, there was power windows, mirrors, cruise control, etc!)

S15 is completely different kettle. Proper sports car, RWD, drift machine, 99% of them are molested... Horses for courses.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:14 AM

The Subaru Liberty comes in Sedan or Wagon, that's your first decision.

The liberty is then divided into GENERATIONS or 'GEN' which are the following:

GEN1 1989-1994
GEN2 1994-1998
GEN3 1998-2003
GEN4 2003-2009
GEN5 2009+

The keep basically the same shape only varying slightly in revisions.

They are then divided into luxury and performance. There is that many different models it's crazy.

Initially the model grades were 2.0i, 2.5i, 2.0GT, 3.0R, and 3.0R spec.B. The 2.5i could also be ordered with Luxury Pack (in-dash CD Player, leather interior, power driver's seat, sunroof), Safety Pack (dual front side and curtain airbags), or Premium Pack which is the combination of Luxury and Safety Packs. Premium Pack was also offered for the GT. In 2006 the Liberty 2.0i became 2.0R, and the 3.0R spec.B was also available as Blitzen model with sport grill and aero bumpers. For 2007 model year the Liberty GT and new GT spec.B received bigger 2.5-liter turbocharged engine.


The 3.0R is actually a 6 cylinder as opposed to the standard 4.
The GT is turbo so thats no interest to you.

The rest are pretty self explanatory. You also need to decide whether you want leather and sunroof etc.

Subaru is AWD which gives great handling on the road and depending on what you've driven before you can really notice the difference in handling.
For example, you've been driving a holden so you most likely will not be sliding around corners with your back whipping out in your new suby.

Subaru servicing I would consider moderate, It's going to be higher than Hyundai, Ford and Holden but lower than VW, BMW and Audi.

Liberty in my opinion is the impreza's more luxurious brother and not AS performanced based. (Having said that, the GT and 6 cyl 3.0R model both make approx 180KW+)

You really ought to drive one before deciding, but you'll most likely love it anyway.

For 15G you'll pick up a nice GEN4, depending on the model you may have to sacrifice the year model to have a few of the extras you want.)

For example..

2004 - Liberty 3.0R B SPEC - 92,000KMS BLACK - 15G
http://www.carsales....~0.5&sort=Price

Otherwise you could buy a standard 2.0i or 2.5i... 2006 model for that price.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:26 AM

The manual spec.B's have the STi 6 sp gear box too which is awesome.

I didnt think this was an "STi" 6 speed?? always thought it had different ratios and wasnt as strong as the STi box??....i could be wrong though??

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:31 AM

I didnt think this was an "STi" 6 speed?? always thought it had different ratios and wasnt as strong as the STi box??....i could be wrong though??


Could be! I heard it on the internet... :s

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:59 AM

Yeah just looked into it...apparently its the same box with different internals and more synchros

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:01 AM

Not bad

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:33 AM

I've posted a comment on your "hi Everyone" thread regarding Gen3's... take a look! :)

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 07:02 AM

Yeah just looked into it...apparently its the same box with different internals and more synchros

Taller final drive too.

But they lack any serious diffs (i.e. they're open front, and centre diff isn't as heavy), but allegedly can handle the abuse like a Kiwi girl cooking her man some eggs.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 07:21 AM

Give me a jdm dccd box and r180 any day ;)

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:24 AM

Hi Mate and welcome!

1.
www.goauto.com.au is a good place to start. there is also a site called www.subaruliberty.com that might help.
Ive also found red book excellent to compare stats, features options etc to help in these situations

2.
depending on what you look at yes 15k is a reasonable budget, like Morgan and others have said though it depends on what model, H6 are obviously going to be more.

3.
probably on the money aiming for around 15k, but again depends on what you want, condition etc etc.

4.
majority of people on here use their car as a daily driver while also modifying it with no issues. I believe its just a case of not going overboard with the mods, for example riddiculously loud exhausts or extremely firm suspension, things like this will ruin it as a daily driver and make for a bad time driving it. Regular servicing and maintenance and sensible modding will see your car remain reliable while still getting the most out of it and enjoying the modifying experience.

5.
not entirely sure on this, but im sure someone on this forum will know more.

6.
like morgan said colour is a personal choice. just depends what your preferred colours are. some find white extremely boring, some hate black cause they think its hotter. personal preference in the end really.

7.
Ive found my liberty and infact all Subarus to be safe and reliable cars, hard to fault it really.
comparing it to an S15 is near on impossible. apples and oranges really, completely different cars with different purposes. S15 is sportier looking, RWD, 2 door coupe, compare that to a liberty which is 4 door, more practical more comfortable, AWD, and in my opinion more subtle and attracts less attention from the boys in blue.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:50 AM

So I'd like to start my Suby journey by getting myself a Liberty. I'm thinking of not going any earlier then the 2006 model, but am always open to suggestions of course. My budget is around the $15,000 mark and I am unable to drive turbocharged vehicles till October next year (but want and need a car now so please avoid telling me to wait another year).

Warning: Below you might find some noob questions. Be patient and bare with me. I've been a Holden owner ever since getting my license and never looked into anything else till now at my immensely mature age of 24. *end sarcasm* :ph34r:

I assume it'd be easier (for reference purposes) to number my questions?

  • Where can I find a specific hierarchical list of Subaru Liberty's say from 2004 onwards? Reason I ask this is because I'm aiming at buying a model that's higher up in the chain, something like the Calais and up equivalent in Commodore terms. It'd be good to have some pics too as I'm much more familiar with the look of a Liberty rather then a set of letters and numbers that distinguish one from another. Possibly a link to a site other then Wikipedia for this information?

    2004 onward is specifically Gen4. There was an upadate in 2007, with the MY08 models.
    You're going to be looking at this as a basic rundown of the models available:

    Liberty 2.5i Sedan & Wagon (manual and auto - manual has dual range)
    Liberty 2.5i Premium Pack Sedan & Wagon- same as above but add sunroof and leather, plus some other little extras.
    Liberty 3.0 Sedan & Wagon
    Liberty 3.0 SpecB Sedan & Wagon
    Outback 2.5i, 2.5 Premium, 3.0. Excludes sedans.
    Exclude all GT's due to your current restrictions.

    My08 models saw a facelift front and rear end, better seats, tilt and reach steering wheel, different wheels and colours.

    There were a few special edition models, such a heritage and 2.0. Avoid the 2.0 models. If you're looking for a model with all the bells and whistles (reference your calais suggestion), look at for a 3.0 model or a Premium Pack.
  • Am I being realistic with setting a budget of $15,000?

    As long as you're expecting a model with higher klm's - This isn't a bad thing mid you, just that lower klm models tend to command prices upwards of the 15k bracket. you'll likely only find a 2.5 or 2.0 in the 15k price bracket.
  • Is this budget too much (doubtful, but a good question in my opinion!) for what I'm after?

    You could certainly spend less as there are examples to be found under 10k, but then you risk opening a tin of worms for a vehicle that might be of questionable history or excessive klm's.
  • If you require uses for the car then it'll be my everyday drive both for personal use and driving to and from work, I'd like to progressively modify it, I'll be keeping it for some time, I love driving, etc. Along those lines. I want to have reliability, performance as well as excitement and fun all mixed into one package.

    They are great as a daily driver. You won't be able to do too many engine modifications, as they are pretty much useless on the NA models, compared to the turbo models. You can comfortable do some fantastic mods to the suspension and perhaps exhaust (if that's your thing), that won't ruin your every day driving experience.
  • In regards to running costs, services, parts, etc, are they gonna be high, moderate or low when compared to other Suby's and/or brands? Feel free to compare genuine Subaru parts as opposed to aftermarket products.

    Running costs aren't too bad. Parts are a plenty and can be had cheap if you're prepared to shop around. Servicing at Subaru can get expensive from some services, like the timing belt at approx $1200 every 120,000k's on the gen4's.
    But, if you're handy with a spanner and are prepared to do the work yourself, or should beers for fellow club members, running costs can be very low indeed.
  • What is the best colour? I'm thinking charcoal or black.

    Pearl white in the MY08 updates, Charcoal is also an MY08 update colour. Both good choices. Or maybe even Silver.... Silver looks the goods.
  • What puts a Liberty on top of any other car for a guy around my age? Before making up my mind and going for a Liberty I had my heart set on getting a Nissan Silvia S15.

    Silvia and Liberty are like chalk and cheese really. the drawcard of a liberty are that they are pretty roomy, very reliable, not particularly slow, have a great AWD system are well put together and aren't bad to look at.
    If you want to compare, look at Honda Accord Euro and Mazda 6, they are probably the closest competitors.

I'll definitely have more questions as they come to me but for now this is all I've got. Can't wait to hear from everyone!



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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:57 AM

I'd like to add something to this discussion, but seeing as the details seem pretty well covered;

Wagon,
Wagon,
Wagon,
Wagon,
Wagon,
Wagon,
Wagon,

Get a wagon.

:)


I have a sedan :( :dash2:

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:47 PM

Wow, information overload (that's a good thing). I'll organise my replies as best I can, but seeing as most replies are quite similar I'll avoid repeating myself thousands of times over.

@Morgan: Firstly, thanks heaps for all of that. I know it must've been a lot to get through but I do appreciate the time you have taken out to write that up, this goes for everyone. It's good to see that help is there when you ask for it. The run downs on models is awesome and I now kinda know what I'm looking for. I do have to get my head around it completely but so far so good. I'm happy to see that my budget is realistic and gets me what I want, I'm over having old rust-prone buckets. Yes all cars are prone to rust, but I mean cars that are older then I am. I think I'm just over Commodores now to be honest... I used to love VL's. And I still love rotaries (hopefully this doesn't spark up Apple vs. other brand-type arguments).

Alright, back on topic.

I think the GT is out of the question as that is turbocharged. The 3.0 sounds awesome (and I like the 6-cylinder sound of it) but $20,000 is just way outta my budget. For question 4, that's music to my ears. On past forums people are all about 'this is my fully sick show car and this is my daily'. Finally a forum exists where people use their cars and not store them away to be used only on rainy days to conserve rubber. If you have a car and modify it, USE IT. I'm really keen on doing the basics to make things look nice, drive perfectly and at the same time meet my hunger for finally driving a decent car. Things on my to do list include a full exhaust system, suspension, rims, window tints and that's pretty much it for my short-term plans I think (open to suggestions or critique). I don't wanna have a fully sick wog-mobile (it's not racist if I'm a wog as well) but still want to meet the fine line between pleasure and performance. I like getting my hands dirty as well so wouldn't mind if I REALLY got into things. ;)

Moderate costs to keep the car running, servicing, etc? Awesome. I hoped I wouldn't be getting myself into the Euro stage of things. My mate owns an Audi A4 turbo and parts for it are astronomical. Not only would I not be able to afford it, but I'd have to lose my love for such an awesome car. Moderate I can do. As for colour, my heart is set on silver, charcoal or black. Black would be awesome but leaves scratches and imperfections prone to be noticed a lot easier. Morgan, your conclusion is spot on and has made this a drug-like Liberty addiction I can't shake off. I saw an S15 driving home from work today on Canterbury Road and I was like, "What the beep is that piece of beep?" It had the noise of the exhaust and it did grab my attention, but the second I saw it I was kinda turned off. Just like switching on the light or waking up in the morning after a big night out with a girl that, hmmm, let's just say wasn't your cup of tea?

Thanks again Morgan.

Can we swear on this forum?

@WALKER: I am definitely interested in getting a model that has the lot, but leaves the turbo out of course. Leather interior isn't an absolute must, but I've never had a sunroof before and I want it! Letting my hair out as you cruise to the beach is my idea of a happy dream. I don't have long hair, but if I did, the last sentence would be true. The AWD aspect is a huge plus as well. I've lost my license for two years in my VS and I believe it's tainted, although I haven't been pulled over yet since getting them back *knock on wood*. At least an AWD will keep me out of trouble, I think? But seriously, in regards to handling, that's what I'm looking for as well. I don't think I'd get a chance at driving one before I'm out looking to buy, so the test drive before I seal the deal will be the first time I ever manage to get in one. I have seen pics of the interior and love what I see. I can potentially go up to $16,000 or even $17,000, it just comes down to what's on the market.

Thanks for your reply man, another big help to add to my research.

@FR34KO: Just had a look man and have made my reply. Thanks for that.

@mark300: Thanks mate! Great to be here! I'll be sure to check out RedBook, but as for other forums, I really don't want to register to many if I can get everything in the one place (and Suby Club is absolutely mental so far, I love it!). That's a valid point with regards to my budget. If I can get the top of the range NA '06 model then that's my target. Like I've said earlier, it'll all just depend what's on the market when I'm looking at sealing the deal and whether I can get it in overall good quality. You get what you pay for of course, but sometimes money talks and when people see $15,000 in their hands they'll be sure to take off a grand or two. Call me optimistic, but isn't it a good thing to be thinking positive? :P

I don't plan to go heavy on my mods, and the ones that I will do won't be stupid. I want something extremely nice, not a whole lot of noise with little to back it up. One of the factors that I decided to go with a Liberty over an S15 was purely due to the boys in blue. I've been in trouble before and don't want to get in trouble again. I've had my lessons taught and learned from my mistakes. Time to get on with it and not make those same mistakes again.

Thanks for your post. Yet another one that has made me not stop thinking about the car.

@SUBARU: Judging from your list of models, I'm targeting the Liberty 3.0 SpecB sedan (this would come with the sunroof, leather interior and the extras right?). If this is the model that is way out of my budget then I guess the next best thing would be the Liberty 3.0 sedan (does this also come with the added extras?). The reason why I want the latest and best is because I am planning on keeping the car for a LONG time. I don't want to have to buy another car for another 5 years say? Reason-being, I won't need to. If I pay the price and get something overly decent now, I won't have to think about getting a new car for ages. When you say I should keep my eyes on a 3.0 or Premium Pack, do you mean the 3.0 or 2.5i Premium Pack? I am just confirming in case the 3.0 has a Premium Pack model as well.

You mentioned that I won't be able to do many engine modifications due to it not being turbo, my question is, what engine modifications CAN I do? The usuals; air filter, performance parts, etc? I'm just curious. I'd like to think I'm handy with a spanner and together with my dad we've managed to do work on my VS ourselves. The Liberty won't be any different. It's always good to get your hands dirty if you know what you're doing of course. Thanks a lot for taking out time to reply man, much appreciated.

@FR34KO (again): I've never been a fan of wagons, but the Liberty wagon does look nice I must admit. Like I mentioned before, I'll leave my options open and won't completely say no to it but as it stands now the sedan is what I think is the way to go.


Many thanks so far guys, and I think I've just out-posted you all now but keep 'em coming. The amount of information I'm soaking up is like opening the flood gates of Warragamba Dam!

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 06:50 PM

(and I like the V6 sound of it)


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Posted 20 September 2012 - 07:19 PM

WALKER mentioned a 6 cyl 3.0R model... I wrongly classed it as a V6. My bad. Post edited. Now take that granny away from me!

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 08:08 PM

WALKER mentioned a 6 cyl 3.0R model... I wrongly classed it as a V6. My bad. Post edited. Now take that granny away from me!


Haha it's a H6 but yeah they sound tits with an exhaust! So other than that for the sound there's not really anything you can do to the H6 without forced induction or opening the engine up.. neither of which would be very cost effective compared to buying a turbo to start with. I would stick to to brakes and suspension, lots more options there! I assume you're on your P's? You can always buy a GT in a few years time and swap all the suspension etc over - the majority of stuff will be the same.

I had a sunroof on my last car, don't miss it at all! Just a gimmick imho

Servicing costs - stay away from a dealer and it's quite reasonable I think

If you get a GenIV, which seems likely, liberty.asn.au is full of info as well

By the way, I can say with first hand experience that AWD doesn't keep you out of trouble at all - just gets you off the line even quicker :sarcastic:

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:36 PM

Subaru = flat 4/flat 6 ;)

Actually using the car you modify is definitely the way to go! Although, I do have to keep selling them because I drive too many kms haha

Your plans sound good. Fairly standard mods around here which means they work!

The swear filter on here seems to be selective? Fuc.k turns to Posted Image. Just type whatever you want and the filter will decide haha!

Don't let the $16-17k cars turn you away. Ring the seller and have a chat. They've probably got the $15k figure in their head and will be happy to negotiate. Just keep rego/insurance in your mind as that can add an extra $1k-1500 ontop of the purchase price.

Re engine mods. Hi flow filter, cold air intake, hi flow exhaust, and a tune is a good place to start. The 3.0 really starts to sing ...like a Porsche ;)

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:16 PM

@mark300: Thanks mate! Great to be here! I'll be sure to check out RedBook, but as for other forums, I really don't want to register to many if I can get everything in the one place (and Suby Club is absolutely mental so far, I love it!). That's a valid point with regards to my budget. If I can get the top of the range NA '06 model then that's my target. Like I've said earlier, it'll all just depend what's on the market when I'm looking at sealing the deal and whether I can get it in overall good quality. You get what you pay for of course, but sometimes money talks and when people see $15,000 in their hands they'll be sure to take off a grand or two. Call me optimistic, but isn't it a good thing to be thinking positive? :P

I don't plan to go heavy on my mods, and the ones that I will do won't be stupid. I want something extremely nice, not a whole lot of noise with little to back it up. One of the factors that I decided to go with a Liberty over an S15 was purely due to the boys in blue. I've been in trouble before and don't want to get in trouble again. I've had my lessons taught and learned from my mistakes. Time to get on with it and not make those same mistakes again.

Thanks for your post. Yet another one that has made me not stop thinking about the car.


No trouble at all mate happy to help.
just so you know the other two i listed arent forums, are just reference websites, they will have more info as well.
cash does help in buying a car, helped me certainly in buying mine.
if your after something with power that is non turbo the 6 Cyl range is the way to go in my opinion. got taken for a ride in one the other day thats had a little work done to it and they certainly are an impressive car. smooth power curve and still have some guts.
i agree with you, no use owning a car and hiding it away in a shed for no one to see.
best of luck with your search mate, hope to see you and the car out on some cruises and meets in the future!

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:06 AM

Thanks nickknack, that's exactly what I'm aiming for. I don't want to wait longer to get a turbocharged Subaru because I need AND want a new car as soon as possible before my VS carks it. I am on my green P's yes, and that idea is great as well. I guess I'll make those decisions when I come to them, no point in planning too far in the future as things tend to happen out of the blue. And you disliked your sunroof? Really? That's something I'm looking forward to to be honest! Is it too much maintenance or something? AWD keeps me out of trouble in regards to being stupid and giving it hits around corners and what not, sending the car in directions that it should not be heading with the wheels rotating as fast as they do. Take offs and street racing, isn't that illegal? Fun nonetheless! :P

Good to hear Morgan. And I'll be sure to give the language filter a go. That's exactly what I'm thinking cause I know I'd do the same. If I wanted to sell my car at $15,000 I'd add a couple of g's onto it so I have a better chance at getting that price, ensuring that the customer becomes a happy customer with his or her "discount". Not a scam, it's just the way the world works. I'll be prepared for the rego/insurance costs as well, I haven't taken that off the list fortunately. Let's just hope I manage to get a 3.0 then. What about the 2.5i's that SUBARU mentioned? Can I expect any good sounds coming from them with similar modifications? Another question I might have in the near future when I do buy the car is what I should expect to pay for the mods. Always good to have some feedback before getting charged stupid prices from greedy workshops.

@mark300: I didn't realise they were reference sites. If that's the case then I'll definitely give them a go. I just want to avoid being a member of multiple forums. Just gets chaotic when you've got to find topics and posts. Much easier having everything in a central location. I have no reason to leave Suby Club. I find the more I use it the more I am addicted to the whole Subaru scene. Absolutely adoring what I've been seeing both from you guys as members and from the general information provided throughout the forum. 6-cylinder looks to be my main target, and I'll work my way down if my budget does allow me to get one. I've just always had to deal with the 'next best thing' and just want a car that I'll be over the moon with that will take up my spare time to work on and enjoy.

I can't wait to get on the cruises and meets man. I've never done it before and it seems like the in thing to do when being part of a car enthusiast forum. I've just never had a good enough car to "show off". :blush:

Thanks again mate.

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Can you hook a brother up? Please contact me now. I have cash ready.

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