Hey guys, just wanting to get your opinion on x-force mufflers.
Are they any good for the price, or am I better off going to something like magnaflow?
Cheers
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:30 PM
Hey guys, just wanting to get your opinion on x-force mufflers.
Are they any good for the price, or am I better off going to something like magnaflow?
Cheers
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:34 PM
Really depends on what sounds good to you. Some people like that raw raspy sound, some people like a deeper burble. Get on youtube, It's about the closest your going to get to finding something you like. Price is also a factor. I've had an X-force and a Magnaflow. Both were okay, but my current Corozon S304 sounds WAAAY better than both of them. Especially with UEL headers. But is 2-3 times the price.
Would help if you told us what car, what engine etc you have..
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:36 PM
I have a 2001 Subaru outback (BH) completely stock exhaust (and engine for that matter), just after a deeper note with a hint of the 'Boxer Gurgle'
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:37 PM
I have UEL's and a muffler for sale for the BE/BH...
I like to think of it as borrowing someone's car and driving it better than them.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:38 PM
I have UEL's and a muffler for sale for the BE/BH...
Dont tempt me! haha
Sedan or wagon?
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:40 PM
Dont tempt me! haha
Sedan or wagon?
Haha. Sedan.
UEL's are the same, doesn't matter.
The wagon mufflers are a little longer, but it's not hard to fix that.
I like to think of it as borrowing someone's car and driving it better than them.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:41 PM
From what I have read, to get the true Boxer sound you need UEL's right?
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:45 PM
From what I have read, to get the true Boxer sound you need UEL's right?
For the non-turbo's.
I like to think of it as borrowing someone's car and driving it better than them.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:48 PM
For the non-turbo's.
P-plates = no turbo
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:49 PM
P-plates = no turbo
Well good choice of car! You're going in the right track.
I like to think of it as borrowing someone's car and driving it better than them.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:50 PM
Just to add, I have been eye-ing off this muffler as a starting point. Quite cheap so if I didn't like it its not a huge loss
http://www.ebay.com....984.m1423.l2649
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:53 PM
Just to add, I have been eye-ing off this muffler as a starting point. Quite cheap so if I didn't like it its not a huge loss
You'd have to get an exhaust tip welded on, plus the piping and hangers needed.
Also, for an NA, you preferably need a 2" or 2.25". 2.5" and above starts going in to Turbo territory.
I like to think of it as borrowing someone's car and driving it better than them.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:57 PM
You'd have to get an exhaust tip welded on, plus the piping and hangers needed.
Also, for an NA, you preferably need a 2" or 2.25". 2.5" and above starts going in to Turbo territory.
Isn't the stock piping on the liberty/outback 2.5" though? or is that just the tip?
Thanks Aek, will have a read
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:58 PM
Isn't the stock piping on the liberty/outback 2.5" though? or is that just the tip?
Thanks Aek, will have a read
Just the tip. It's 2" all the way.
I like to think of it as borrowing someone's car and driving it better than them.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:01 PM
I've always heard good things about Xforce mufflers and exhaust bits. I will be buying some bits and pieces from them for my exhaust system as well if that matters as an opinion.
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:02 PM
Just the tip. It's 2" all the way.
Oh ok, thanks for the clarification, might go 2.25". Much difference between 2.25" and 2"?
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:17 PM
Oh ok, thanks for the clarification, might go 2.25". Much difference between 2.25" and 2"?
.25 of an inch.
Jk's. If you can stretch the budget (and find one), get yourself a Fujitsubo oval muffler.
I had one on my old Legacy GT-B and it was the best muffler i have ever had on a Subaru.
I've had an X-Force on my conversion which i thought was too bassy without much tone, chinese generic cans which gave a warm tone and nothing special, PhatGT quads on my Liberty GT-B which were modified Hurricane cans which were very raspy and cackley, i've had a weird and massive Megaduck (dont ask, its what was stamped into it) which was very quiet with a full system but high flowing.
If i had to choose, the Fujitsubo would win hands down.
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:28 PM
.25 of an inch.
Jk's. If you can stretch the budget (and find one), get yourself a Fujitsubo oval muffler.
I had one on my old Legacy GT-B and it was the best muffler i have ever had on a Subaru.
I've had an X-Force on my conversion which i thought was too bassy without much tone, chinese generic cans which gave a warm tone and nothing special, PhatGT quads on my Liberty GT-B which were modified Hurricane cans which were very raspy and cackley, i've had a weird and massive Megaduck (dont ask, its what was stamped into it) which was very quiet with a full system but high flowing.
If i had to choose, the Fujitsubo would win hands down.
Was waiting for the smart arse comment haha.
Yeah, but is fairly non existent at the moment, have to get head gaskets done soonish (passenger side is leaking).
Was more just sort of out to see what I could do to get the sound I want without blowing $500-1000 on an exhaust (keep in mind I want sound not performance)
I've always heard good things about Xforce mufflers and exhaust bits. I will be buying some bits and pieces from them for my exhaust system as well if that matters as an opinion.
Thanks, nice to know someone else is happy to try it
Anyway, torqued to spec is just the manuals way of saying 'we couldn't get it any tighter, see if you can'.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:30 PM
To save some cash, get mild steel. If you found a muffler second hand, you can get away a catback knocked up for less than $500 including the price of a second hand muffler ($100-$200). I have always had mild steel, and to the naysayers who say it doesn't last as long as stainless or it's shite, you wont own the car long enough, plus i reckon mild steel sounds better.
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