Another b4 bites the dust
#1
Posted 25 September 2014 - 12:45 AM
How hard is it to do a wrx conversion I understand the motor goes straight in but how hard an costly is the loom and also I hav a trip tronic auto soooooo.....???
#2
Posted 25 September 2014 - 11:20 AM
Liberty B4 2002 BE5 Rev E 2.5L BITURBO TF035HL-14GXT E85
#3 Guest_KONG_*
Posted 25 September 2014 - 01:24 PM
Shit go brother.
Plain and simple.... the easiest, quickest & cheapest option is to replace the motor with another 206. If you are thinking of a "Half cut"to do this, then you'll have to match the diff & transmission ratios as Aust ratios are 4.11 and Jap ratios are what ever they felt like on the day. Usually 4.44.
As for converting to a WRX motor, a loom splice is 1k alone. It is a great option but not really possible to do on the cheap. As the Dr said, there will be no change from 5k and that's being optimistic.
Hybrid motors = more cashola.
I suppose it all comes down to your funds & what's available to buy at this time.
If it's an option, you should buy back the other B4 and transfer it all onto yours.... manual box etc.
#4
Posted 25 September 2014 - 02:06 PM
Convert to H6, and plasti-dip it.
#5
Posted 26 September 2014 - 10:28 AM
The other thing you can do is sell off the other parts from your old motor, injectors, turbos, etc.
MY00 Red RX, a nice daily that was sold off once the B4 became reliable...
MY02 Blue B4, aka 'The Project' - v8 JDM STi engine package and assorted other 'goodies' - Sold, then bought back for parts. Stripped and crushed.
MY03 Blue RX, the newer old daily, pretty well more B4 than RX now... In the process of being converted to the track toy... Watch this space!
MY02 Silver Wagon, H6 conversion, full blue/black leather and almost full black interior to go with it.
MY03 White/Silver H6 Outback, donor car for silver waghoon.
MY97 Silver RX, acquired to become track car, but plans changed. To be stripped and scrapped in time.
#6
Posted 26 September 2014 - 10:54 AM
Old Chinese Proverb: Experience should fear the strength of Youth
#7
Posted 26 September 2014 - 01:07 PM
How keen are you though. It's an old car. You can just pick up another B4 for ~$7k and call it a day if you like. Transfer your good stuff over to it, part the rest out, or burn it.
If mine goes boom, I'll probably just go buy something younger. As much as I like the old girl.
I want the long story highway driving isn't exactly hard on a B4..
#8
Posted 26 September 2014 - 04:15 PM
#9
Posted 26 September 2014 - 08:05 PM
Do you work in the motor trade and have access to a abundance of tools-skills-problem solving-scan tools and a about 20 other mini skill sets ?
If you dont . Dont even think about it .
I don't have any of that shit, and i can have the engine out of my car on the ground in-front of it in less than an hour. Don't be so quick to judge and give the guy a chance.
However, i do agree with you (for once) that Mbooma, just get yourself another 208 and be done with it. If you even want to get away with it cheaper, I would happily put my hand up to help change it over. Unless you have the cash to make it rain with the boys down at Ichiban or Al up at Noosa, just stick to keeping it original. If your still keen on having a B4, sell your AUDM one and keep a keen eye out for a clean JDM RS-K. The factory tunes are more sensible than the AUS delivered B4's and way less problematic. However, along with most things, if they are looked after in their lifetime you have less chance of things getting bent.
As alot of us have seen with the experiences of AUS B4's, they go into workshops where mechanics aren't sure what they're dealing with and thus, bad stuff happens. I even had to rectify a few clueless workshop "fixes" on my GT-B when i first took the keys for it.
If you are going to go down the TT to T path, i stress that you do your research on what is tried and tested. Don't bother trying to re-invent the wheel as SubyDr or whatever his name is (If he even has a name, which I'm sure some of us would like to know) has said. It will end up on the backburner for eternity and worthless. Do it once, do it right.
Jimbo out.
'04 Liberty GT Premium "The Sprog Chariot"
#10
Posted 26 September 2014 - 08:07 PM
Nah I've hav done to much an spent to many hrs on it to get rid of it so I'm thinking of looking into a Frankenstein motor 25 block with 20 heads an b4 set up
No. Straight up. Forget it.
'04 Liberty GT Premium "The Sprog Chariot"
#11
Posted 26 September 2014 - 09:19 PM
Ive suggested to some of you guys try and get hold of someone with one and look at the data that is available to you .The Melbourne boys have had Snowball turn up with all his ones so you may need to ask them what they think after been giving a demo.
Most amazing thing ive ever seen
#12
Posted 26 September 2014 - 09:24 PM
Jimbo
Start gettting issues with your Twin Turbos and then if you dont have the right tools (Ie Select Monitors for starters) you will waste a lot of time and energy trying to find some very simple problems. Which
can be seen straightaway with the right equipment. Subaru dont design and supply certain tools for nothing. Ive suggested to some of you guys try and get hold of someone with one and look at the data that is available to you .The Melbourne boys have had Snowball turn up with all his ones so you may need to ask them what they think after been giving a demo.
Ive seen guys try and single turbo B4s in the past and Ive yet to see one thats been done with positive results. Ive never seen one of Als cars out of Qld. Although there are a number of us
wondering if the Gramps build would every get some form of engineers compliance. Im not sure that a Haltech could pass a current emissions test. Although time will tell on that build.
I have my own select monitor, it's called a set of eyes and hands. I have had these Subaru's for more than 8+ years and have never needed such thing.
There are plenty of single turbo B4's on this very forum without problems, many of which I'm personally very familiar with. Seen plenty of cars done by Al across the state also.
Do you really think that everyone modifying Subaru's are that naive? I don't even understand what Gramps has to do with any of this? If your so concerned, why don't you just march on over and slap your own canary sticker on it ffs!
'04 Liberty GT Premium "The Sprog Chariot"
#13 Guest_KONG_*
Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:42 PM
WillC's single converted EJ208 hauls arse. Ryan from Tas also had a good run with his and what about Glen's?
They are are the first 3 I think of and I don't think any of those boys haven't looked back since going single.
#14
Posted 26 September 2014 - 11:55 PM
MY00 Red RX, a nice daily that was sold off once the B4 became reliable...
MY02 Blue B4, aka 'The Project' - v8 JDM STi engine package and assorted other 'goodies' - Sold, then bought back for parts. Stripped and crushed.
MY03 Blue RX, the newer old daily, pretty well more B4 than RX now... In the process of being converted to the track toy... Watch this space!
MY02 Silver Wagon, H6 conversion, full blue/black leather and almost full black interior to go with it.
MY03 White/Silver H6 Outback, donor car for silver waghoon.
MY97 Silver RX, acquired to become track car, but plans changed. To be stripped and scrapped in time.
#15
Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:00 AM
MY00 Red RX, a nice daily that was sold off once the B4 became reliable...
MY02 Blue B4, aka 'The Project' - v8 JDM STi engine package and assorted other 'goodies' - Sold, then bought back for parts. Stripped and crushed.
MY03 Blue RX, the newer old daily, pretty well more B4 than RX now... In the process of being converted to the track toy... Watch this space!
MY02 Silver Wagon, H6 conversion, full blue/black leather and almost full black interior to go with it.
MY03 White/Silver H6 Outback, donor car for silver waghoon.
MY97 Silver RX, acquired to become track car, but plans changed. To be stripped and scrapped in time.
#16
Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:03 AM
From what im seeing it seems like the ones that working perfectly have been done with half cuts/full rebuilds and shops who know what they're doing, although im not sure about Wills case.
#17
Posted 27 September 2014 - 11:38 AM
Most amazing thing ive ever seen
+ 100 M
The subaru select is an amazing tool, it shows so much info,
#18
Posted 03 October 2014 - 11:34 AM
Ichiban $1850
SSS $1200
So soon enough i should hav an engine and will need a few sets of hands to help me I will more than likely ripp it down and fully rebuild it new gaskets an belts an pulleys etc so ill keep u all updated with how I go
#19
Posted 20 October 2014 - 03:09 AM
Best of luck man, the actual swap side of it is reasonably painless - it took me, and only me, 2 weeks (while still working) to swap it all over. Remember to change out the water pump if you are doing the 100 thou service.
Remember to tighten everything up properly, like coilpack bolts and hose clamps on inlet manifolds, before you try and start it. Also, keep the old items like coilpacks - if one decides to undo the bolt on its own and comes off after hard cornering, you'll fry it before you can even turn the engine off. I've used 2 of my spares now, so its a good idea to keep them.
If you run into dramas with anything, PM me. Its likely I've faced it before.
Cheers,
Ben
MY00 Red RX, a nice daily that was sold off once the B4 became reliable...
MY02 Blue B4, aka 'The Project' - v8 JDM STi engine package and assorted other 'goodies' - Sold, then bought back for parts. Stripped and crushed.
MY03 Blue RX, the newer old daily, pretty well more B4 than RX now... In the process of being converted to the track toy... Watch this space!
MY02 Silver Wagon, H6 conversion, full blue/black leather and almost full black interior to go with it.
MY03 White/Silver H6 Outback, donor car for silver waghoon.
MY97 Silver RX, acquired to become track car, but plans changed. To be stripped and scrapped in time.
#20
Posted 21 January 2015 - 02:44 AM
How did this go? Still broken or in the process of being fixed?
MY00 Red RX, a nice daily that was sold off once the B4 became reliable...
MY02 Blue B4, aka 'The Project' - v8 JDM STi engine package and assorted other 'goodies' - Sold, then bought back for parts. Stripped and crushed.
MY03 Blue RX, the newer old daily, pretty well more B4 than RX now... In the process of being converted to the track toy... Watch this space!
MY02 Silver Wagon, H6 conversion, full blue/black leather and almost full black interior to go with it.
MY03 White/Silver H6 Outback, donor car for silver waghoon.
MY97 Silver RX, acquired to become track car, but plans changed. To be stripped and scrapped in time.
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