18 replies to this topic

[JRod]

So in laymans terms, your farked. Thanks Jovie hahahahahahaha

[Mav]

its cause they want to set an example. mehh its just worrying what they COULD class as street racing... imagine if we were doin the usual shit and just accelin hard off the line jovi only goin to the speed limit but theres some cop behind us with his batton to far up his ass :S ... least if it happens around our area jovi i can probs get out of it haha.

[big_tedman]

its because people who do it are a minority and it makes then look like they are fixing a huge problem which they arent, because so few die each year from street racing compared to inexperience and lack of training which they refuse to deal with. dam politics

[tangcla]

its cause they want to set an example. mehh its just worrying what they COULD class as street racing... imagine if we were doin the usual shit and just accelin hard off the line jovi only goin to the speed limit but theres some cop behind us with his batton to far up his ass :S

... least if it happens around our area jovi i can probs get out of it haha.

That's what I'd be worried about - what they classify as 'racing'.

I'm sure they could consider your heavy acceleration as unsafe driving, by any stretch of the imagination...

[Mav]

yer tang. oh well shit happens

[Claydog]

Here is another post I found,make you stop and think. It's Not Drag Racing! Tuesday, 20 May 2008 - Posted by Rob Sharp (ANDRA Head Office) The problem of illegal street racing ("hoon driving") on Perth roads has encouraged one of the key people behind the legal sport of drag racing to speak out against the hoon activity. Among the main ambassadors for drag racing is Royal Perth Hospital trauma nurse practitioner Terry Jongen, who is also the WA Division Director for the Australian National Drag Racing Association - and a competitor at Perth Motorplex. Jongen has had enough of dealing with both the trauma from illegal street racing and the activity being branded incorrectly as drag racing. "Illegal street racing is just that; a stupid and dangerous thing in an uncontrolled environment," he said. "There will often be passengers and other innocent people around you who don''t want to be part of it, whereas when you are drag racing, you are at a purpose-built, controlled location with racers who consent to race and do so in a safe environment." Jongen is an ardent fighter against illegal street racing and as a drag racer himself said he was keen to see people make the switch from irresponsible hooning to fully legal and safe drag racing. "People need to get off the streets and do it at the track," he said. "It costs you next to nothing at the track and you can do as many skids as you like in complete safety and with complete immunity from the law. You can go as fast as you like and race who you like. I don''t understand why anyone would do it at a set of street lights and put themselves, and others, in jeopardy." While Jongen explained that he didn''t understand what motivated illegal street racers, he cited the studies of Dr Glen Fuller who completed his PhD on the 'hoon problem'. "It''s all about testosterone, hype and stupidity," Jongen said. "The so-called hoons represent less than one percent of one percent of road users but police and politicians are targeting them. "Fuller analysed what drove them to do it and it comes back to the caveman theory. It''s about ego, pack mentality and dominance. "Males in their late teens and early twenties have thought processes that are heavily influenced by the hormone processes they are going through. You see it at any mass gathering where they fight and brawl." Jongen wanted to see people use proper facilities as an outlet for their need for speed. His career in the Royal Perth Hospital emergency department has taught him that racing does not belong on the streets. "I''ve spent 18 years in the emergency department and seen deaths, people having limbs torn off, brain injuries and so on," he said. "I had to tell one lady that two of her three sons were killed in an accident and we were trying to save the other one. "People just don''t understand the consequences when we have to pick up the pieces after a crash. "I looked after a motorcyclist who'd been caught up in a street race; one car clipped him and he died. He was riding home from a volunteer fire fighting lesson." Jongen also spends time as a medical advisor to Perth Motorplex where he helped implement safety procedures and said the environment is safer than driving on normal roads. "The Motorplex has a tiered response," he explained. "There is a first response vehicle and depending on what they find, we can call for more resources. We have trialled the rescue helicopter at the track. All the medics are trained in extrication from race vehicles, which is a specialised art. "We have a ''scoop and run'' policy. We do the basics on the scene but the definitive response to trauma is generally surgery." Jongen said the impact of his work made him even more aware of just how safe proper racing facilities were. "Seeing trauma first hand and knowing what happens to people's bodies, I know it is infinitely safer on the track," he said. "The way the track is built makes it safe. The design of the Motorplex with increasing crash barrier heights as you go down the track is one of the best safety innovations I have seen." Jongen believed education is another key to stopping illegal street racing and general road carnage. "It''s all about education. The Prevent Alcohol and Risk-related Trauma in Youth (PARTY) program at RPH takes kids through simulated resuscitations, real victims and presentations about road trauma. The response so far has been good and based on the results from Canada, where the program originated; it should be successful in reducing road trauma."

[legacy rsk]

drag race on the street and get caught your car should be squashed...do it on the track

[Blaeven]

"The so-called hoons represent less than one percent of one percent of road users but police and politicians are targeting them." what a load of bullshit... i seriously think that police have better things to do than target a minority. it's like the whole P plater thing. whenever there is a p-plater accident (or a modified car accident), they want to splash it all over the news and say "we need tougher laws" but if the crash is non-platers in standard cars it's like no one gives a shit...

[legacy rsk]

0.1% is to many we need 0% come down to brighton-le-sands and see how some people drive in on bay st in a 40 zone....do it on the track

"The so-called hoons represent less than one percent of one percent of road users but police and politicians are targeting them."

what a load of bullshit... i seriously think that police have better things to do than target a minority.

it's like the whole P plater thing.

whenever there is a p-plater accident (or a modified car accident), they want to splash it all over the news and say "we need tougher laws" but if the crash is non-platers in standard cars it's like no one gives a shit...

[Blaeven]

why are you talking??? when in your exhaust video u zoom like a d**kwad through a giveaway sign????? first look @ yourself then comment

only have to give way if there is oncoming traffic, and i had a lookout (the person filming the vid) to tell me if there were any cars coming...

besides, it's not even that fast...

[Mav]

clearly the team america distress signal jovi

[Trigga]

this is what irks me to hell!!!!!!!!!! From the above link: The Hon. J. H. JOBLING "The Act has been in operation for less than six months and many of its provisions remain untested. Nevertheless some conclusions can immediately be drawn. The most important is that the Act has been a success.[with] The creation of new offences and the threat of vehicle confiscation provided by the Act has successfully broken up the large congregation of car enthusiasts [basically us people who like to hang out and look at cars instead of drink or fight], who have been described in both Houses as hoons and who previously regularly engaged in illegal, dangerous and disruptive activities such as street racing and performing burnouts and doughnuts" so at what point dose a car enthuisast become a hoon and as a "car enthusiast" i feel horribly insulted being lumped in with the doughnut drop skid laying bogans, i mean sure we have have our brain farts but come on they act like we're all out of mad max. i can compare it like this replace "car enthusiasts" with "muslims" and "hoons" with "terrorists" and it becomes yet another gross representation of a minute group within a sub-culture. these laws are not a sucsess due to a reduction in road fatalities in fact there has been no drop in fatalities and they continue to rise! poor drive education and training are whats at fault here but that would cost more money than speed cameras and wouldn't raise funding quiet aswell... Same with power restrictions i can kill myself in a deawoo matiz just as fast and as easily as in my rex!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Claydog]

Well said Troy.

[jak4cars]

... bad post change of mind