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[ams]

F50.

One of three built.

[Adam]

High grade.

Kim Jong Roisin just wants to bomb me for my gold.

Good.

[B4TT]

Why good, it won't benefit you, you are common folk! as far as she is concerned you will starve for the greater good of her Nuclear Weapons program.

[skillionaire]

Define High Grade.

They were Canadian, claimed it was Kush. My skepticism has always been high, but I didn't exactly go in depth with my analysis. Looked more like a sativa grown under lights than an indica, but whatever, they were the ones that called it 'high grade' hence the parentheses.

@AMS: That's an F50GT mate! They famously built '349' F50's.

[Adam]

Why good, it won't benefit you, you are common folk! as far as she is concerned you will starve for the greater good of her Nuclear Weapons program.

Better than you having all the gold.

Maybe she will just buy a load of squeaky toys?

[ams]

Or steak.

[Adam]

How do you do cvs on an f50?

[skillionaire]

Pay someone.

^^ Haha, pipped at the post.

[Harry88]

Morning all



Veyron no longer fastest production car in the world

[skillionaire]

Venom GT does not have it's own VIN, it is still plated as a Lotus. Veyron still holds the title.

John Hennessey has done an amazing job, but he has NOT made the fastest production car.

NEXT.

[Harry88]

[skillionaire]

I'm having a hard time believing I'm the only one in the enthusiast sector who has a problem with a non-production car claiming production car records.

If I were to take the business end of a Top Fuel dragster and graft it onto the rear of a Pontiac Fiero, would that be the world's quickest-accelerating production car? It sounds like an extreme case, but it's no different than what Hennessey has done here.

Sorry, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, and it just happens to fall on the other side of today's Venom GT.


Quote:
Originally Posted by John Hennessey »
Thus, we are making the simple claim that the Venom GT is the fastest new vehicle that you can buy, own and drive.
Let's examine once again the build process of a Venom GT; step one is to buy an existing Lotus Elise or Exige. Nearly everything except the central tub and windshield is discarded, and Hennessey adds their own engine and chassis bits. The result is so radically different from an Elise or Exige that it retains scant little Lotus DNA.

The big issue I have here is that the Venom GT retains the Lotus VIN, meaning it is seen as a Lotus by any regulatory body, law enforcement agency or insurance company in the world. For purposes of classification, it merely rides on the coattails of Lotus' certification for the Elise or Exige on which it is based.

I might remind everybody that the Elise/Exige have not been sold as new vehicles in the U.S. since model year 2011, making Hennessey's claim of "fastest NEW vehicle you can buy" a bit strange. I would also remind that the reason the Elise/Exige can no longer be sold in the U.S. is that Lotus was unable to bring their airbag systems into compliance with advanced airbag operation, as specified by NHTSA FMVSS 208. This is precisely the reason Tesla had to stop sales of the Roadster in the U.S., as it was based on the Elise as well (note that the Roadster was VIN'ed and certified as a Tesla, not a Lotus).

The Venom GT does not even possess a driver's side airbag, a clear violation of U.S. production car regulations for about two decades now. There are reasons that companies such as Morgan and Pagani have so much trouble bringing their cars to the U.S. market, reasons which Hennessey conveniently sidesteps in the manner in which they currently build the Venom GT.

Until the Venom GTs are sold as current model year cars, with their own, unique identifying VINs, they are modified Lotus cars. I can't explain this point any more simply.

Mr. Hennessey has been kind enough to PM stating he would gladly bring me a Venom GT to examine, were one ever in my area, an offer I have accepted. It's a mighty impressive car for sure, and 265mph in two miles is simply astonishing. Mr. Hennessey wants he and I to agree to disagree, which is a cute little turn of phrase. But it's he who will sit back and continue to accept the accolades for world's (whatever) production car, when that simply isn't the case. And no amount of other members here fawning all over this car will change my mind on that.

World's quickest accelerating production car = Koenigsegg Agera R


World's fastest production car = Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

FROM HERE;

http://teamspeed.com...-h-2-miles.html

Hennessey has been on TeamSpeed for ages, the debate isn't really a debate, simple fact is it is NOT a production car.

[B4TT]

Better than you having all the gold.

Why can't I just have it?

Is that the inner Jew coming out in you? jealous as you want to add to your stash of Jew gold?

[B4TT]

Not a production car, it joins the ranks of every other modified car out there, it is like saying a Singer Porsche is a production car when it is an awesome car that is taken, modified and made more awesomerererer.

[Shaz]

[skillionaire]

Damn right.

[B4TT]

9 'ing Fasts.

[skillionaire]

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