I'm required to fit an Australian Standards approved immobiliser for insurance. I've had horrible experiences with immobilisers playing up in the past. Are there any reliable systems available that deactivate with the central locking, rather than having to swipe a fob or enter a code?
hassle free immobiliser?
Started by RSK20, Jul 12 2013 05:45 PM
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:29 PM
I thought our cars have an immobiliser built in like most modern cars? (ignoring the brant), doesn't the car require the coded key to start?
A switch in the centre console that cuts a connection, old school spec. 
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:20 PM
I have a rhino system. Been working trouble free for like 3 years at least!!, never even switche the battery in the remote!
No siren. Just lock unlock, immobilise
No siren. Just lock unlock, immobilise
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:13 PM
I thought our cars have an immobiliser built in like most modern cars? (ignoring the brant), doesn't the car require the coded key to start?
A switch in the centre console that cuts a connection, old school spec.
They do? I've got an import, so it never had the brant or keypad immobiliser.
I know that to be approved it has to be self-arming (which it would be) and have a minimum of 2 immobilising points (unsure about that one).
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:14 PM
i thought jdm ecu's didnt have coded keys
Have you put any more thought into squeezing some more power out of the engine. Like strapping on one of those intake fans
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:27 PM
i thought jdm ecu's didnt have coded keys
Interesting, looks like you're correct, no jdm subarus have coded keys/immobilisers.
That would be why the previous owner, who imported my car, had a horrible fob fitted to the keyring. If you didn't start the car right away or it stalled for whatever reason, there was a huge delay before it could be started again. It gave me the shits, so I ripped the whole thing out, and binned it.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:52 PM
I have used Vision Security for the last twenty odd years.
http://www.visionsecurity.jp/en/
Have fitted them to 5 of my cars (but not the Subies) and to some mates cars as well. Absolutely no issues with any of them. Ever.
All I use is the simple alarm/immobiliser that can drive the factory central locking and if you wish it to work as an alarm, it will drive the vehicles horn. The alarm function can be toggled on and off if you wish. The immobiliser has two cut out circuits (one high current and one low) so you can kill the fuel pump and starter (or ECU, ignition etc) plus it can monitor doors (via factory switches) and boot/bonnet.
The unit can have the inputs and door lock outputs set as either a negative or positive edge trigger so it will work with most cars.
Can't recommend them highly enough, but with any aftermarket electrical/electronic system, reliability is only as good as the installer.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 09:50 PM
I have a Rhino RAV2 alarm & immobiliser (Australian insurance approved) in my '02 Outback and I had the same system in my '98 Liberty. Faultless system. Loads of programmable functions.
But as Jase said - its reliability is only as good as the installer. (Sydney members, message me if you need a good installer and I'll dig up his details)
Only thing I detest about the insurance approved immobilisers is the auto-arm function that is a requirement. Once you unlock the car, you've got about 30-seconds to turn the ignition on before it rearms the immobiliser. So damn annoying!
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:48 AM
Once you unlock the car, you've got about 30-seconds to turn the ignition on before it rearms the immobiliser. So damn annoying!
Does it still do this after a door has been opened Shiv?
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 09:50 AM
Hi,
That's what I was wondering?
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:51 AM
Yes
I've never really seen it as an issue though
I've never really seen it as an issue though
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 01:08 PM
The Vision will do the same but if alarm function is on, then only the immobiliser re activates and doors remain unlocked.
Must be a standard sort of thing?
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 01:49 PM
Only thing I detest about the insurance approved immobilisers is the auto-arm function that is a requirement. Once you unlock the car, you've got about 30-seconds to turn the ignition on before it rearms the immobiliser. So damn annoying!
Must be a standard sort of thing?
I'D SAY THATS THE REQUIREMENT? 
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 02:21 PM
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 06:47 PM
Does it still do this after a door has been opened Shiv?
Yup, the immobiliser will kick in even after the doors have been opened. (the feature you're alluding to is a second optional function that can be programmed in as a safeguard in the instance you accidentally unlock the car and do not drive it)
The auto-arm on the immobilser is annoying because you've got to rush to start the car once you unlock it otherwise it auto-arms the immobiliser after 30-seconds which forces you to disarm it a second time before driving. If you're loading the car, by the time you're ready to turn the ignition on, you've got to disarm a second time.
Pretty sure its part of the "Australian insurance standards" specifications.
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Posted 13 July 2013 - 11:00 PM
If the car was to stall while running, would you have to disarm again before it could be restarted?
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 09:04 AM
With the Vision (and I suspect others), no. The ignition needs to be turned off to reset the system.
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 09:11 AM
Hi,
I haven't locked my car in about two years.
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 09:24 AM
With the Vision (and I suspect others), no. The ignition needs to be turned off to reset the system.
Same with my whino
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Posted 14 July 2013 - 12:53 PM
Hi,
I haven't locked my car in about two years.
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HI,
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