To all those out there that hae done the 6mt conversion on their car.. Alex I'm looking your way.
Does anyone know if the tail shaft from a gen 4 lib 3.0r with 6mt will work if I was to put it in my gen 2 along with the box? Or do I still need to get an auto tail shaft?
6 speed conversion
Started by Aaron.W, Jan 07 2014 09:53 AM
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:53 AM
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:20 AM
Pretty sure you will have to use a auto shaft from a Gen 1 or 2. And I just happen to have one sitting in my shed 
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:49 PM
Does anyone know if the tail shaft from a gen 4 lib 3.0r with 6mt will work if I was to put it in my gen 2
Does not fit - different centre bearing mount style.
Need an AT shaft.
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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:58 PM
Gen4 6spd won't work, You won't have a speedo.
Best bet is making up a conversion kit from a non-dccd 6pd.
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 03:31 PM
Gen4 6spd won't work, You won't have a speedo.
Best bet is making up a conversion kit from a non-dccd 6pd.
Surely there is a way of making the speedo work??
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 04:00 PM
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 04:35 PM
Gen4's use the wheel speed sensors for speed reading.
Gen4 boxes don't have a speedo drive on them, Your gen2 cluster reads from a speedo drive.
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 06:22 PM
It might be worth mentioning here that to drive a suby without the speedo connected (ie dash not displaying speed) will result in ECU limiting to 100 kph. The ECU is smart enough to work out the speed from gear changes and revs. Not sure if it applies to Gen 2s, but it happens to 99 wrx's, and everything else later that that.
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 06:59 PM
I'm sure there will be a plug in the box casing for one.. Hopefully
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 07:27 PM
Nope. It does not.
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 07:37 PM
I have heard of it being done before. This guy has one for sale
http://www.rsliberty...-for-91-liberty
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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:45 PM
Have to split the bell housing off the rest of the box (about 1 bolts and 3 nuts and some silicone/sealant).
Take the diff out (mark and count the number of turns for the retainers).
Get all the drive gear parts (the 2 drive gears, shaft, circlips, seals, o-rings etc) and make sure your front diff has a cut out to accept a drive gear too.
Send it to AM Auto to get it machined - some bloke they use has a jig setup for this.
I did this a few weeks before Christmas.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:39 PM
Thanks for that info bibbyjimmy! Don't suppose you have a roughy estimate on what the cost may be ??Have to split the bell housing off the rest of the box (about 1 bolts and 3 nuts and some silicone/sealant).Take the diff out (mark and count the number of turns for the retainers).Get all the drive gear parts (the 2 drive gears, shaft, circlips, seals, o-rings etc) and make sure your front diff has a cut out to accept a drive gear too.Send it to AM Auto to get it machined - some bloke they use has a jig setup for this.I did this a few weeks before Christmas.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 12:44 PM
Cost me $220 to get it machined including freight back here, was $20 or so to send it up there via e-go.
No idea what the sensor parts cost as I got a heap of other seals and parts at the same time.
No idea what the sensor parts cost as I got a heap of other seals and parts at the same time.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 01:06 PM
Sorry guysits a gen 4 gtb box.. Will I still need to modify it?
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:04 AM
Hunh? Any Gen 4 box will need to b machined as like Cam said they don't have/use speed sensors.
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:20 AM
Ahh ok no worries 
thanks again for the info
thanks again for the info
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