wain

did you check down the watery end of the boat ramp?

 

Maybe someone pushed it in because they couldn't get it started with their screwdriver.

lol

i didnt find any loose wires.

i did discover that the screwdriver probabley turns more than the key would.if i turned the screwdriver as far as it will go i get the flat battery condition.so the contacts inside are past where they should be to supply power.i hope that is all it was

there is NO immobiliser on the car.the key is just a plain metal key like a house key.i have removed the whole ignition switch and housing containing the steering lock.the back drops out of the housing and that is where the wires are and the slot to put the screwdriver.it is an intermittent problem.might start 20 times as normal then play up.

i  started it a little while ago and at first it wouldnt fire then tried again and it was like a flat battery and i thought i heard a SPARK.maybe there is a loose wire behind the plastic surround under the steering wheel.when i removed that the lower the steering column i noticed there were a lot of electrical do dahs screwed to it.im about to go and remove the panel and see if i can find a loose wire.

the car isnt stolen.ive had it for 4 years now.im just over working on it but am now looking for a new car.will sell this for parts.still regoed till feb.

the car im probably getting tomorrow is a subaru sportswagon 4x4.had an earlier model before i bought this outback but it got stolen from the boat ramp while i was fishing.it was a great little car.went good on the beach.the outback was ok on the beach but lacked ground clearance.

wtf.how could it be operater problem?

why mention the solenoid?

do you hotwire yours when you use a key?

only thing different is the key now is a screwdriver.cant get operater problem with turning a screwdriver in a clockwise direction till it starts then releasing it.then turn the screwdriver in an anticlockwise direction to turn it off.

i might not be einstein but i do know how to start a car.

your car (presuming you have one) might be from another planet if yours is different.or you actually havent tried starting a car

its a 1998 generation 2 subaru outback model as stated above.it is a plain metal key without an immobiliser.this is just ANOTHER problem with this car.its a money pit.