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[FR34KO]

Hey dudes; some of you may know that I bought Cams SG XT a couple months ago..
well a relatively bad thing has gone wrong.. came home to syd yesterday from jindabyne and upon reaching Cooma I noticed a strange ticking sound occasionally happening.. by sydney it had worsened..
Needed to head up to newcastle, so I took mums car..

Dad just spoke to me, mechanic said it's the crankshaft.. mentioned something about a 'big end' also. Heard the term before but not 100 on the meaning.


So, expensive fix.. anybody have any suggestions or valuable info or even hook ups.
I'm located in peakhurst, in sydney's south, near hurstville. I'm travelling back to jindy tomorrow though, not in the forester haha..

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Cheers guys... dan

[peteRS]

Sux dude...Big end bearing failure is terminal(motor out)...speak to the guys at Ichiban

[FR34KO]

Yeahh, motor out is what he said whats the ball park figure on a reco? Over a grand I'm assuming!
Ichiban sounds like a good start, cheers

[Scuba-Roo]

SPeak to MSR about a rebuild

[FR34KO]

True... what's the legality behind that. I mean, are you suggesting there's a small amount of liability from his end...? Or just going and getting it.. of you get my jist haha?
Also, how much would a flatbed all the way from sydney up to msr

[Morgan]

That sucks, bro!

 

Hiring a car trailer would be a cheaper option.

[alexGT]

there are plenty of decent mechanics who will rebuild a EJ255 in sydney...

[Cam.]

If you need help sourcing an engine, parts or info just give me a bell mate.

Sucks

[Scuba-Roo]

Suggesting msr rebuild your engine. if you got alterternate transport, give diy a go

You could even save a bit of money by pulling the engine out yourself and taking it in somewhere

[Ben_20EJT]

buy a 2,5sti short motor from rising sun subaru and just put it in.

[FR34KO]

I never got a chance (or kinda forgot as i was rushing around syd to see a couple cars.. bombs.. haha) to speak to any mechanics/tuners about costs...

 

So I need to know costs in order to make a decision ..What would be the approximate cost of:

a) Reconditioning the engine?

b )Ben's suggestion, 2.5sti short motor?

Other suggestions?

c) Are the cams upgradable?? Would be the time to do it... Cost?

 

 

More pressing, I have the options of:

a) Travelling back down to sydney via bus early tomorrow morning for about $100; while the fozzy is transported to a mechanic to get reco'd. Then coming back via bus again to pick up the fozz. (adds 200 on top of repair costs)

b )doing that and bumming it down there without a car.. coming back and putting in a new engine.

c) Buying a 96' Magna off one of dads mates for 1G and using that as transport, and continue using that when I come back from working at the snow at the end of septemeber (comes with risk of break down obvs)..    Back home I could pull out the engine myself and transport it to a mech to save money; or attempt to fix it myself. (Always wanted to have that experience under my belt...) And then sell the magna, probably for a loss but eh.

 

 

Also, where should I take it to get repaired/swapped.... MSR, Ichiban... others?

Anyone heard of "In Tune"... or "GoodShit" ?   had these suggested to me as options.. I think one of the two is in campbelltown...

 

 

 

So frustrated and dont know what to do hahahhaa

[FR34KO]

stuff it, buying the magna haha.

 

All that's left to decide is what to do with the fozzy... see above

[cameron]

id tow the foz to ichi or msr and bus it down and back. get a low km replacement

[FR34KO]

Would you happen to know an approx price for a replacement engine, Cam? (or others) For the engine itself, and the total fee of pro install?

[Cam.]

I would pick up a EJ257 short motor and get the boys at Ichiban to do it.

Ask them for a quote, I can't really speak for others when it comes to quoting.

[Sic'Em]

Damn that sucks. Bottom end = $$$. Spun a bearing on the crank shaft more than likely. If you are mechanically minded, then you could possibly do 80% of the work yourself and save $$$ in the process, if not, then get a reputable company to fix it for a decent price.

 

If you get it fixed by a company, then you will have warranty, you will have peace of mind that its all reconditioned (whatever the issues are, they are now resolved). If you opt for an exchange 2nd hand engine, you don't know 100% if that engine will end up breaking down also. If you opt for an exchange reconditioned engine, you have more peace of mind, warranty, and you get your vehicle back sooner rather than later. Engine rebuilds take time.

 

Few variables to note through I guess, just do what you think is best and what you can afford to do at the present moment.

[Adam]

What do you want out of the car?

[Ben_20EJT]

yer as adam just said, what do u want? when i poped my sti motor i went all out on a closed deck 2lt and am going for 250+ kw atw from a 2lt
so far to build the bottom end and work the sti heads im up to 8k but if i was paying a shop it would be around 15k+

[Scuba-Roo]

kris at rising sun suby had a few 08 STI complete engines a few weeks back, dunno if you could use one of them? 

 

you could even get a bare long motor and use your own manifold exhuast/turbo etc. thatd be an easy fix

 

Just for an example when i replaced the engine in my RS lib the other week, the local wrecker wanted $1950 for the 'complete' motor with the turbo, i said i dont need the turbo or manifold or headers or flywheel etc and they did me the motor for $1100,Looks a bit daunting swapping manifold over at first, but once you done it you realise it isnt that bad

[allpaw4]

Cheapest fix - Buy secondhand long or complete motor (has to be similar if not the same year and model to make sure cam/crank wheels are the same, otherwise just change them over). Did that to my B4 the second time. Got away with it for approx 2500 bucks. Lots of effort, did it all myself bar tuning and changing of aforementioned cam/crank wheels. Took approx a month, and learnt so much about the car.

 

Another option is to rebuild the bottom end with forged etc. This gets expensive. Very. Depends what you want to go for as to how much it rapes your wallet.

 

Then there is the stock rebuild. The first motor I blew in the B4 I went down this road. New 207 short motor (at the time, costing 3300 on its own, prices have come down to approx 3 flat now i think). With labour and all parts etc, cost me $8020. That was drive in, drive out. Took a week for them to do it, and the first day I got it back had to do 1000km and then have it serviced. No tuning, just the rebuild.

 

Bottom ends are expensive fixes. Take your pick of your options. There are pros and cons of all three options.

 

Hope you sort it!

 

Cheers,

Ben