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#1 B4AUS

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 05:05 PM

Hi all,
I am looking for advice on a infrequent issue I am currently having with my B4 ADM engine. This problem being an apparent boost leak (or I think) which comes on during the later rev range when the 2nd turbo is activated. This leak is physically felt as the car looses considerable power and surges back and forth loosing and regaining boost all whilst being accompanied by a check engine light. However this leak (or what I think it is) is indiscriminate, in that at some points the second turbo spools and no boost loss is noticed, where as other times the boost loss is monumental. Being the noob I am, I am wondering if this issue could be something else entirely and if so what would you reccomendations be on the issue or its remedies. I obviously understand having the code checked would be a start, I however would like some knowledge before sending it to subaru to be checked.

Thankyou x9000

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 05:34 PM

I had something similar where the car would put itself into limp mode, but wouldn't log a code. Once I got it to log the code (make it do it several times in one drive) it was simply a case of read what the scantool said and replace the faulty component. In my case it was the cam position sensor. But my symptoms were slightly different. Basically you need to keep driving it until it faults a couple of times on the one startup. It won't log the code unless you do this.

Have you had the codes checked?

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Posted 27 September 2015 - 09:42 PM

When the secondary should be boosting, can you hear unusual noise? You may have a loose IC pipe. They're plastic pipe fitting onto metal IC so the seal isn't great and they are prone to slipping off if the clamps aren't secure.

 

Actually, if you're getting an intermittent compressor stall I wonder if it's more likely a failing sensor than a vac issue. Definitely start with codes like allpaw suggested.


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Posted 27 September 2015 - 11:48 PM

Sounds like another car of mine (Toyota) when it hit boost cut - turned out the boost line to the actuator solenoid had fallen off, so the wastegate would never open :)
I did get a MAP sensor error, which I replaced, but it took me a while to work out it was over boosting.

(just giving you something else to check)

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Posted 28 September 2015 - 09:17 AM

Step 1) CHECK THE CODES

Step 2) Reset ECU

 



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Posted 28 September 2015 - 05:05 PM

I had a exactly the same problem and it was caused by the limp mode.

 

In my case the limp mode was triggered by a seized primary turbo. It was producing very little boost so it would bring on an engine light up long hills. Once the light was on and I engaged the secondary turbo there would be a sudden rush of power which then led to being thrown forward in my seat by a boost cut. Turning the key off and on cleared the limp mode.

 

P1241 was the error code if I recall.


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Posted 13 October 2015 - 08:29 PM

Thanks for the input I will taking it to a mechanic soon to address the issue. Strangely today whilst driving the car on full boost I had no issues like these even though they where occurring almost every time prior on full boost. Could this be due to today's colder conditions playing am impact or simply a random coincidence.

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Posted 14 October 2015 - 07:19 AM

If there was a boost leak you'd hear it, and it would happen consistently in hot or cold conditions. Could be a solenoid playing up?

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Posted 14 October 2015 - 08:41 AM

Step 1) CHECK THE CODES


 

 


 



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Posted 30 October 2015 - 04:01 PM

It was cam sensor. Only found in the temp files of the ecu as it would activate then dissappear after you no longer accelerate.

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Posted 31 October 2015 - 12:48 PM

Good to hear you sorted it. Out of curiosity, how many km on her? Mine failed at about 160k.

MY00 Red RX, a nice daily that was sold off once the B4 became reliable...
MY02 Blue B4, aka 'The Project' - v8 JDM STi engine package and assorted other 'goodies' - Sold, then bought back for parts. Stripped and crushed.
MY03 Blue RX, the newer old daily, pretty well more B4 than RX now... In the process of being converted to the track toy... Watch this space!
MY02 Silver Wagon, H6 conversion, full blue/black leather and almost full black interior to go with it.
MY03 White/Silver H6 Outback, donor car for silver waghoon.
MY97 Silver RX, acquired to become track car, but plans changed. To be stripped and scrapped in time.


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Posted 01 November 2015 - 09:55 AM

188,000 and driving like a dream now. I had the belts changed around 5000 kms ago, along with other bits and pieces. In addition I had the rear main done preemptively. Expecting many more kms out of the car.

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Posted 01 November 2015 - 10:27 AM

Happy for you, dude.

 

Far too often people immediately assume problems are TT related with these cars.  I'm guilty of it myself, but as you can see, it's not always the case and from what I've seen it usually isn't  ;)






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