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#61 U-Shell

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 12:28 PM

Okay, so now the main update is done, here's the updated audio section.

 

I've been mucking around with different subs, enclosures and EQ/ crossover settings to get some midbass into the car so the roll off from woofers to sub woofer was cleaner and more complete. 

 

After some research, I decided to bite the bullet, purchase a couple things and give some stereo mods a crack!

 

I had a pair of JL Audio C2-600 woofers lying around that I was keeping for when the OEM paper cone woofers decided they'd had enough of 100WRMS pumping through them  :flag_of_truce:. Surprisingly they still worked but the foam surround had started to fall apart on the drivers side resulting in them starting to sound porridge. This basically prompted this whole upgrade/ mod.

 

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I saved the front door speaker mounts from the RSK I dismantled which had the McIntosh system originally, then replaced with some JBL 5" coaxials. Pulled the 5" JBL's and got to work fitting the JL C2-600's in whilst keeping the door seal tight and OEM like.

 

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Basically took apart the McIntosh door mounts, cut and filed to fit the JL's, then using the OEM speaker plug, soldered that onto the JL speakers so they could still be easily removable if need be.

 

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Made sure to re foam the door mounts and the back of the speaker to ensure a good seal

 

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Stopped past Clark Rubber and found some off cut closed cell foam sheets they were getting rid of. $40 (I think) for the whole sheet, which would see all four doors done easily

 

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Decided to keep it thin so the door card would clip back on

 

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Pulled off the moisture barrier carefully in order to trace it onto the foam for both the front doors

 

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As you can see, there's plenty of foam for all four doors. I'm yet to do the rears, but if we get some nice weather down here on a weekend soon, I'll get them done too

 

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Cut it out and with a test fit and some slight trimming, it was on and ready for the speakers to be mounted

 

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Even with the thin foam, there was a bit of a fiddling around to get the door card to seat back nicely.

 

Now that was done, it was onto the speakers. You can just but some F.A.S.T rings from autobahn or online which effectively does the same thing, but I had some of this thick adhesive backed foam laying around, so I decided to make my own.

 

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Traced the speakers and did a 6yo job of cutting them out

 

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This was re trimmed to look nicer after this photo haha

 

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Thankfully the speakers sit quite close to the door card, so sealing the speaker onto the door card didn't require a very thick foam gasket

 

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I used the left over centre foam as a reflective backing behind the speaker inside the doors

 

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All finished and speaker mounted

 

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The woofers are currently running in full range (no crossover) with only the head unit providing a high pass filter that's set at 80Hz with a 12Db slope. The tweeters are still OEM and use what ever capacitor they come with as their filter. With this set up, the sound stage is a little off, but it's something I can deal with.

 

For the $50~ it cost to do all this, I'd highly recommend it to anyone that has a spare couple hours to play cars. Mid bass is greatly improved and general road noise etc has been greatly reduced.

 

I'd love to do all this to an OEM stereo (with the double din OEM clarion unit) and see the difference. I'm a firm believer that the OEM sound system in Gen 3's is actually really decent once it's set up a little better and even with just an amp, they can sound really really good if you're not looking for ear piercing volume. Whilst it's not anything like the McIntosh system found in the B4's, I'd think they get close.

 

Thanks for reading all this text in the last couple posts. Will have some more updates sooner hopefully with the clutch replacement!


Id have burnt it long ago lol. Should get a gen 2 instead

 

Wind noise would see me burn it after the drive home I think haha


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 12:50 PM

Come do that to my wagon pls


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Posted 18 July 2018 - 05:42 PM

Geez A LOT of work done since last update!

You've got a good mate there too. Definitely a keeper if he keeps working on your car :/

So will you build one good B4 box from the two or just keep the dual range in as it's nicer to drive?

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Posted 18 July 2018 - 07:15 PM

good stuff - I did similar to my Gen3 - more deadening, sealed the speaker surrounds and replaced the drivers with bottom-end Morel splits in the front, coax in the back.

single-din OEM clarion HU with CD changer - sounds tits to my hairy old ears.

Was thinking of putting in the macintosh amp I stripped off my RSK donor -- but not sure it'd be worth it.

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Posted 19 July 2018 - 08:27 AM

Geez A LOT of work done since last update!

You've got a good mate there too. Definitely a keeper if he keeps working on your car :/

So will you build one good B4 box from the two or just keep the dual range in as it's nicer to drive?

Cheers

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Yeah a fair bit going on with the old girl haha! 

 

He's usually not to bad, just goes a bit bull at a gate sometimes which brings him unstuck lol

 

Keep the dual range and sell off the two B4 boxes cheap to get rid of them. My garage is getting way out of control, and I need some space back to finish off this B4 project I have and other various bits and bobs.

 

 

 

good stuff - I did similar to my Gen3 - more deadening, sealed the speaker surrounds and replaced the drivers with bottom-end Morel splits in the front, coax in the back.

single-din OEM clarion HU with CD changer - sounds tits to my hairy old ears.

Was thinking of putting in the macintosh amp I stripped off my RSK donor -- but not sure it'd be worth it.

 

I remember reading an article somewhere about Subaru getting in some of the clarion(?) sound engineers and spending a fair bit of time on the Gen 3 audio. Guess it paid off because they do sound good for an old car!

 

Are you going to run it off the single DIN Clarion unit with an adapter harness or put in the McIntosh head unit to match the amp? 


Come do that to my wagon pls

 

Should finish it and drive it to mine and we'll have a field day on it  :drinks:


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Posted 19 July 2018 - 09:10 AM

 

 

Are you going to run it off the single DIN Clarion unit with an adapter harness or put in the McIntosh head unit to match the amp? 


 

 

The clarion doesn't have any outputs - so I'd need a new HU unless I bodged something with the outputs and a resistive divider to get the amp input levels down (is that what you meant by adaptor harness?)

 

I've got the matching (JDM) Mac HU, but its CD and cassette...  I'd rather upgrade to something with bluetooth & USB.  Don't see the need for CDs any more.



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Posted 20 July 2018 - 09:40 AM

 

The clarion doesn't have any outputs - so I'd need a new HU unless I bodged something with the outputs and a resistive divider to get the amp input levels down (is that what you meant by adaptor harness?)

 

I've got the matching (JDM) Mac HU, but its CD and cassette...  I'd rather upgrade to something with bluetooth & USB.  Don't see the need for CDs any more.

 

Yeah that's basically what I meant. If you could find the wiring diagram for the amp loom, you may be able to replicate the signals easily and make it work. For the effort involved, it would be easier just to buy an after market amp and run that off an updated head units RCA outputs. At least you'll get some features like High/ Low pass filters etc.


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Posted 20 July 2018 - 07:41 PM

Clarion Gen2 stereo system was pretty decent aswell, back before Subies became AWD Camrys.

Decent work Callum. Hope to see it in Aug/Sep.


 


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Posted 27 July 2018 - 04:38 PM

So smol update!

 

Plugged my scan/ diagnostic tool into the car and received a P0051 - Passenger side o2 sensor was ded

 

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Whilst a new Denso sensor was >$200, I found a generic unit on eBay for $130 and thought I'd give it a crack. It arrived a couple days later so it was time to swap it over.

 

The car hasn't been up on stand for a while now so it was good to have a look underneath and check for any leaks etc

 

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The culprit:

 

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New vs Old. The new sensor came copper greased and ready to go

 

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Sensor installed I grabbed the scan tool, plugged it in to clear the check engine and all was good!

 

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Readings were back to normal and after 100Kms of driving the car felt a lot smoother. Hopefully it brings my fuel economy down from 10L/ 100Km that i've been getting lately.

 

Since the car was up on stands, I grabbed the two engine mount reinforcement plates from my B4 project and threw them under the EZ to see if it helped.

 

Engine mounts and pitch stopper undone up top, I just used a jack to lift the engine enough to slide the plates in.

 

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Just enough to slide the plates in

 

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The steering rack bush was looking a little average in term of fitment. The kit I ordered came with both sizes and the smaller one didn't look to be any where near fitting, but when I did the same kit on the old Gen 3, I don't remember there being such a sloppy fit on the bush, not sure if it effects the steering rack mounting or not?

 

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Back on the ground and parked next to the B4 which hopefully will have it's new heart this weekend if Ty and TT worshiper OMR swing past to lend a hand

 

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I did get a check engine light for the drivers side o2 sensor about a day after I installed the new o2. Cleared the code and it hasn't come back, but looks like it may be on its way out too...

 

 

 

Clarion Gen2 stereo system was pretty decent aswell, back before Subies became AWD Camrys.

Decent work Callum. Hope to see it in Aug/Sep.

 

Compared to the same era Australian delivered cars they are miles ahead haha

 

Will be good to catch up for a warm milk or 7  :nik:


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Posted 27 July 2018 - 10:29 PM

Good work, though I don't remember the original gameboy being quite that big :P. I guess I was smaller too.


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Posted 10 April 2019 - 09:50 AM

Well it's been a while since an update, and this will be one of the last.

 

Outback has been going strong and reliably for the past 9 months (now at 220,000km). Has been driven as my daily just about everyday until the end of last year when I purchased my latest toy...

 

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2009 NT Pajero VR-X! 

 

Purchased with 302,000 on the clock and she's up to 312,000 currently after a trip to Fraser Island over christmas.

 

Still have my BMW and B4 project (which is done and will be up for sale soon)

 

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So unfortunately the time has come to put the Outback up for sale  :empathy3: ...

 

Car will be tidied up, replace the melted rear bumper and then hopefully off to the next owner who can appreciate all the time and effort thats gone into this car. It truly is one of the best daily cars I think you could own. Plenty of power, sounds fantastic and now with all the sound deadening ect, it's quiet and comfortable for long hauls.

 

No doubt I'll get sucked back into Subarus again thanks to guys like Ty, Joss and Nick who I'll live my post Subaru life through haha


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Posted 10 April 2019 - 12:11 PM

oi nah get another subaru


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Posted 10 April 2019 - 06:04 PM

BMW and Pajero driving cross dresser.

Be true to yourself get a single tarbo subi something.

Remember god is watching, I don't think he's very happy.



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Posted 10 April 2019 - 11:13 PM

Lifted Turbo Foz would do that job well - just sayin'



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Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:46 AM

Awesome buy on the Paj. We love ours (NP). It’s the VT family bus replacement - so good! And we’re loving the diesel which I assume you got too.

When the day comes that you’re a bit depressed and wonder what’s missing in your life you’ll know it’s time for another Subi ;)

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Posted 11 April 2019 - 01:49 PM

oi nah get another subaru

 

Turbo H6 would be mad

 

 

BMW and Pajero driving cross dresser.

Be true to yourself get a single tarbo subi something.

Remember god is watching, I don't think he's very happy.

 

Only cross dressing for OMR

 

 

Lifted Turbo Foz would do that job well - just sayin'

 

Biggest problem I faced with the OBK (and I assume most Subarus) is that their tow ball load is fairly average. Whilst my car says it can tow 1400Kg, it can only have 90Kg~ of tow ball weight. I've got an old Jayco pop top with the axle a fair way back in the chassis which means it load up the tow ball a fair  bit even though its <1000Kg. No doubt I'll be back behind the wheel of a Subaru one day though. Ownership is a slippery slope I can't seem to escape haha

 

 

Awesome buy on the Paj. We love ours (NP). It’s the VT family bus replacement - so good! And we’re loving the diesel which I assume you got too.

When the day comes that you’re a bit depressed and wonder what’s missing in your life you’ll know it’s time for another Subi ;)

Cheers

Bennie

 

Those NM/ NP Pajeros are awesome. They look so good with just a simple 2" lift and some decent offset steelies. Mate has a petrol one with 300,000+ and it's never had an issue.

 

I've got the Diesel too, surprisingly fast for a 2.5t boat!


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