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[HowFarToAsgaard]

Looking at getting a Gen4 turbo
What's the real diference between the two?
Are there much internal diferance or is it just mainly cosmetics ? Are there much suspension and engine differences?
I was told the tune by sti was not a JDM import but a Australian modification.
What

[Jimbo]

Tuned by STI was just a parts bin special.

TBSTI Has :

Mesh Grille
STI Lip spoilers ( F & R )
Brembo's
Enkei 18" Wheels
Quad Tip mufflers
Strut Tower Brace
STI seats
Mild Tune

I'm not sure but i think it scored the proper STI 6MT gearbox aswell. 

That's all i can think of, interior wise i think it's the same, probably a small plate somewhere saying the "build number". If i recall i think Docklands Subaru at Melbourne slapped them together and upped the tune.

I do believe the S402 was the ACTUAL STI version of the Legacy. ( Remember those monster 6pot brakes up front! )

[HowFarToAsgaard]

Do both have alloy control arms and bilstein suspension ?

[Jimbo]

Both have Bilsteins, the STI with STI specific springs ( Forgot to mention ). As for alloy control arms, might have to ask someone who has one, dunno about that one.

[allpaw4]

Yes on the suspension. I would assume the control arms were done, thouhg not exactly sure.

 

The main reason you would want the TbS over the Spec B is the brakes. Everything else is much easier to get. If you're not going to push it hard, then the TbS isn't really worth it on paper. Gen 4 GT brakes are more than adequate.

 

Unless you want the limited numbers item. Only a few hundred were done.

[Jimbo]

Only problem i can see is people wanting stupid money for them. Here's a tidy one : http://www.carsales....3/?Cr=2&sdmvc=1

A quick look on carsales, your looking at $26 to $30k. You can get a SpecB GT for easily under $20k now, couldn't even sell my '07 for that much nearly 2 years ago. Quick check, SpecB's as low as $15k!

Assuming we're talking the facelift version, pre-facelift didn't get Brembos and got less fruit than the facelift.

[Liberty]

+1. Unless I had the money to afford an STi.

[Morgan]

I reckon $25k for a TB is a decent buy.

 

Wheels and brakes alone are worth between $3-5k depending on condition and age.

[Jimbo]

Screw the TBSTI. Get a $15k SpecB and put $10k of mods into it! 

[Morgan]

Yeah I suppose

[argi]

Only problem i can see is people wanting stupid money for them. Here's a tidy one : http://www.carsales....3/?Cr=2&sdmvc=1

A quick look on carsales, your looking at $26 to $30k. You can get a SpecB GT for easily under $20k now, couldn't even sell my '07 for that much nearly 2 years ago. Quick check, SpecB's as low as $15k!

Assuming we're talking the facelift version, pre-facelift didn't get Brembos and got less fruit than the facelift.

with that price u can get a 06-10 WRX STi

http://www.carsales....)&sortby=~Price

[HowFarToAsgaard]

So in all it's the same suspension set up bar the springs, same engine, same transmission and drive line, same exhaust system.
Although the interior is very nice on the sti. Not realy keen on the sti wheels though.

[Jimbo]

Yeah it's pretty much stick-on bit's and a slightly fettled tune.

[HowFarToAsgaard]

How are these compared to a b4 as in reliability and service ?

[Robert]

Reliably would be 10000000 times better

Service costs, same same might cost a bit more for brakes and what not.

[Reevesy]

How are these compared to a b4 as in reliability and service ?

Nothing compares to a B4 in reliability and power
























But seriously, eveything is more reliable than a B4

[Jimbo]

With SpecB's, there was a recall on them for the turbo oil feed line being faulty. Check this has been done. That's about the only thing i can think of, apart from that, they're pretty bullet proof so long as they are looked after well. 

As for B4's, with any TT, as long as it's been looked after it will serve you well. With a TT you need to be able to make time for the system and know you TT shiz. If something goes wrong it's an epic mission trying to resolve it. For hassle free motoring, go with a SpecB, they're cheap enough at the moment.

[Mosti]

They do have STi control arms, lateral links abd what not. Red stitching, STI embroided onto the front seats. My bro has one thats currently up for sale. It has the rare TCP Auto TBE and pins you back nicely when in sports sharp mode.

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[Liberty]

Not looking at buying, but I'm keen to see a link Mosti.

[Mosti]

Just had a major service too! Haha
http://www.carsales..../SSE-AD-2343226

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