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[WillC]

I was recently having a chat to a few mates and was thinking about things that will probably be of interest to SubyClub but no one had the balls or technical know how to give it a go.

 

I was keen to put a Gen 3 STI 2.5L MT cluster into my B4 2.0L Turbo which required a bit work cable switching ( all well and good until I quickly lost interest ) Cluster is still sitting here and my B4 one is back in the car. Then I was thinking of modding this STI cluster into a B4 dark faced STI cluster. They already have these in JAPAN but it would be cool to make a custom one.

I don't want to break this one yet, so I'm giving another spare cluster a dummy run. My dummy is a Gen 2 cluster. My plan for this cluster is to augment the back to make it a brighter faced cluster.

Perhaps digitize the RPM, SPeedo with small LCD's running in parallel with the needles. Create a custom front face ( hopefully with Adam's help ) with custom Subyclub logo, if I can get permission from our Admins and Paul. The custom subyclub logo on the face will have a back light like the B4 face.

 

This is where I am at. Awaiting in the mail some calibration equipment before I start attacking the tacho and speedo.

 

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I wouldn't mind getting some feedback as I go along on suggested improvements electronically and aesthetics. ( Aesthetically im not good. But I can make things work ahahahaha )

[Barbbachello]

With regards to lighting it someone in the US used LED strips or it might have been cold cathodes to get a perfect even light. Just some ideas

[WillC]

I am using cold cathode fluro tubes for face numbers, red ring will be bulbs's and the increments on the tacho and speedo will be LEDs.

 

The circuit will a delayed light up sequence, I will try get it to follow the B4 lighting sequence. Needles-> ring -> numbers.

So far I haven't thought about how you would do a sweep but I'm still thinking about it.

[Barbbachello]

Only way i can think would be to find out the voltage of say 220km/redline and then on startup raise then lower the voltage to that amount

[Adam]

Awesome!

[Barbbachello]

Awesome!

Going to have more cluster options than you know what to do with haha

[Robert]

I have two spare gen 2 clusters if you need any parts will.

[Barbbachello]

I have two spare gen 2 clusters if you need any parts will.

I could use one of the speedo boards if you wanna send it this way

[allpaw4]

Yea, the sweep is simply a variable voltage feed, say 0 to 5 volts or more likely 12 volts. Wouldn't be hard to figure it out and then find a small PLC or IC chip that will emulate it. Maybe find out how the gen 4s do it?

[Jimbo]

Awesome! id just be happy enough to have a blackout cluster work in my RevA. is it just a matter of matching wires?

[Barbbachello]

Awesome! id just be happy enough to have a blackout cluster work in my RevA. is it just a matter of matching wires?

Basically. Might have to do some trimming to accommodate the inverter on the back

[WillC]

Jim the Jdm rsks came with blackout clusters. The cluster loom is different tho so you will have to match the new plugs

[Barbbachello]

Rev A-C and D-E have different C plugs. D has 18 pin C plug and A-C has 14. Easiest thing to do would be depin your current harness and repin it to B4 spec assuming you have the right plugs

[WillC]

The A-C Black out cluster also came with 2 plugs Small 14 med 16 and large 30 pins. 

The D-E Black out cluster also came with 2 plugs Small (now) 18 med 16 and large 30 pins.

The AUDM Gen 3 RX Rev A-E have different plugs altogether.

[Jimbo]

Rev A-B didn't have the blackout cluster, that came in about 200-2001. Mine's a '99 Rev A. Has 3 green plugs i think.

[WillC]

Still waiting form my damn function generator to arrive. how long does it take to deliver from 20km away.

[SAV84C]

Some inspiration

[Barbbachello]

the only Tommy Kaira item id consider buying

[Adam]

Will. Make a gen 2 one exactly like that plz.

[WillC]

rkenichi i think it is took at look at that one. The Tommy Kaira one is alot easier to make than you think, and to me its hideous.

 

I have thought about it and taken a look at what it would take to build one and it is doable. But really do you want to loose your speedo needle for a digital number? Aesthetics is not really there.