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Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:22 PM

come to the strip where we will see real results.


Why do you like the strip so much?

Dyno's accurate enough, can't brake g-boxes and clutches that way...





Actually go to the strip Alex, i would love to see your wagon chop a rex :P

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:36 PM

Why do you like the strip so much?

Dyno's accurate enough, can't brake g-boxes and clutches that way...


Actually go to the strip Alex, i would love to see your wagon chop a rex :P


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Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:38 PM

dyno queen :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


I would love to go to the drag strip but i'm scared i'll break my fragile little car and not be able to get home :P

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 03:52 PM

I would love to go to the drag strip but i'm scared i'll break my fragile little car and not be able to get home :P


there there its ok :) you dont have a strip in adelaide so your forgiven anyway.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 06:23 PM

there there its ok :) you dont have a strip in adelaide so your forgiven anyway.



Alex will chop you .. then ill chop him :)

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Posted 24 November 2009 - 11:05 AM

Off topic but how much does a VF18/VF13 turbine back housing go for? Looking for one in good condition for a good price.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 05:59 PM

people nearly give away TT turbos these days, im sure you could find a cheap bargain, wouldnt be anymore than $100 surely.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 06:38 PM

Interesting though Jim as my turbos are vf20-21's. And I know they cannot be found on this planet. But If I blew them up 27-28 or thereabouts would suffice. After I drove my mates Blitzen I want those compressors as they have a bit more lag but fork me they go off on sequential.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 08:18 PM

25/27 for the autos, Rob, or 26/27 for the manuals. Either pair would be sweet. Singleforthewinzomg

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:23 PM

Gen2 GT 13/14 Gen2 GT-B/RS-B AT 20/21 MT 18/19 Gen3 GT-B/RS-K 25/27 AT 26/27 MT Gen3 B4 S401 32/33 Gen3 B4 (Oz) 32/33 Im not 100% but im pretty sure thats accurate.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 09:32 PM

Gen2 GT 13/14

Gen2 GT-B/RS-B AT 20/21 MT 18/19

Gen3 GT-B/RS-K 25/27 AT 26/27 MT

Gen3 B4 S401 32/33

Gen3 B4 (Oz) 32/33

Im not 100% but im pretty sure thats accurate.

I can confirm that is 100% correct.

But using the VF33 (Primary) and VF32 (Secondary).... The VF32 has a larger intake diameter, so therefore, not a bolt in proposition. Your best bet is the 25/27 or 26/27 combo.

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Posted 26 November 2009 - 11:15 PM

How much more power (I know silly Q) would the 32/33 provide over the 26/27 combo? big diff or negligable?

 


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Posted 27 November 2009 - 05:02 AM

How much more power (I know silly Q) would the 32/33 provide over the 26/27 combo? big diff or negligable?

According to Billsy who's tried both combos... the difference is negligible.

Another interesting fact to note is that the secondary turbo is indeed roller bearing turbo.

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Posted 27 November 2009 - 07:13 AM

Hmmm cool... interesting that you say it deff is, I have heard this before yet the spec sheets for the B4 say its brush....... not saying your wrong either because I've heard it from a few techy people that the secondary is roller bearing

 


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Posted 27 November 2009 - 07:46 AM

Hmmm cool...

interesting that you say it deff is, I have heard this before yet the spec sheets for the B4 say its brush....... not saying your wrong either because I've heard it from a few techy people that the secondary is roller bearing


I have read that too, Says both the 32 and 33 use a "Floating Metal" type bearing (quote from the B4 tech specs)

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 05:14 PM

I have read that too, Says both the 32 and 33 use a "Floating Metal" type bearing (quote from the B4 tech specs)

With the exception of the VF25,VF26 and the VF33 which have thrust/2 sleeve bearings, all the other twin turbos are BB.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 07:09 PM

With the exception of the VF25,VF26 and the VF33 which have thrust/2 sleeve bearings, all the other twin turbos are BB.

Incorrect.

Where did you get this information from?

All TT turbos are thrust bearing. BB TT Turbos are VF32, VF27.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 09:55 PM

With the exception of the VF25,VF26 and the VF33 which have thrust/2 sleeve bearings, all the other twin turbos are BB.

This can be easily verified by
1.Using code break on Turbo Master list ie RHF4B. B= BB if there is no B ie RHF4 then it has a Thrust/2sleeve bearing.
2.If you have a free turbo remove the oil drain pipe and look inside the oil gallery of the CHRA.
The BB have a smaller internal port which has a spring separator crossing inside it (compression spring to separate the bearings).
The sleeve bearing turbo have a larger port, no spring and substantially thicker turbine stem.
http://www.turbomast...ihi&pagina=RHF4

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:14 PM

How much more power (I know silly Q) would the 32/33 provide over the 26/27 combo? big diff or negligable?

The VF26/27 will easily out perform the VF32/33 combination significantly.
The VF32 approx!! equats to the VF27.
However the VF33 falls short of the VF26 due to:
1.smaller compressor wheel
2.P11 turbine compared to P14 of the VF26.(more restrictive/less run out)
3.VF26 has better exhaust flow (8 blade performance wheel therefore more run out)
A comparable match up is the PE1016F/VF32 (PE1016F=VF31 on P16 exhaust housing)
Primary turbo guide PE1016F>VF26>VF25>VF31>VF33
Billsy has achieved 107/229Kw ATW with slightly modified (exhaust port)set of VF26/27.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:37 PM

The VF26/27 will easily out perform the VF32/33 combination significantly.
The VF32 approx!! equats to the VF27.
However the VF33 falls short of the VF26 due to:
1.smaller compressor wheel
2.P11 turbine compared to P14 of the VF26.(more retrictive/less run out)
3.VF26 has better exhaust flow (8 blade performance wheel therefore more run out)
A comparable match up is the PE1016F/VF32 (PE1016F=VF31 on P16 exhaust housing)
Primary turbo guide PE1016F>VF26>VF25>VF31>VF33
Billsy has achieved 107/229Kw ATW with slightly modified (exhaust port)set of VF26/27.


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