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#1 Tim.

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:23 PM


Ok, so lately i've been hearing noises and i'm thinking the issue is related to Centre Diff. My car is a Manual 2001 Liberty RX with TT conversion.

The symptoms are:
- Low speed full lock turns in carparks, there is a slight clunking and the car sort of lurches
- Only happens when car is warm, ie. you've been driving a while. Not noticeable when cold
- No issues when driving straight or cornering.

Things my mechanic has done recently to try fix this issue: Front CVs, Wheel Bearings and hubs replaced.

Drivetrain is out of a 1999 JDM Legacy RSK

Has anyone had a similar issue in the past or care to diagnose over the interweb?

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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:44 PM

It's forked.

 

Wouldn't have happened in a real B4, Timmy. :D



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 04:46 PM

Haha! If I had wanted a response as helpful as that, I would've PM'd you Tom.

Real B4's have aids.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 05:18 PM

My gen 2 had a similar problem, it would clunk once warm, my problem was with the rear diff though.



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Posted 01 July 2013 - 10:35 PM

its called torque bind in autos.... google torque bind on SLI.net and the like and see what happens....


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7th: 2002 B4 Liberty TT....

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:05 AM

So yeah pretty sure it's a diff. It's just a question of which one.

Not sure if torque bind is the cause as it seems to affect the 4eat automatic transmissions.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 08:55 AM

Pretty certain it's your centre diff, especially if its really only when doing a sharp turn at low speed. Your description sounds spot on.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:02 AM

I have this, had it for a couple of years now.
Ben (Ichiban) thinks centre diff.
Should probably fix it haha...

I like to think of it as borrowing someone's car and driving it better than them.


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Posted 02 July 2013 - 09:07 AM

I get it allot but ive got a early DCCD box with no auto(Off switch)

 

I did hear allot of stuff about auto`s and it being a easy fix..



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:52 PM

My folks had this same problem in their 2001 Outback. apparently to fix it you need to change the oil in a chamber somewhere around the centre diff / gearbox location (Dad wasn't exactly sure where it is). But the problem is the chamber is sealed and thus you need to buy a whole replacement unit.
I guess this isn't going to help much if I don't know what it's called but that's how my folks got theirs fixed.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 12:57 PM

Yes, the Viscous Coupling, which is also called a Centre Diff. It is a sealed unit and therefore is not serviceable.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:47 PM

IIRC The centre diff can be pulled down and the viscous coupling and gears can be removed for inspection/replacement. But the coupling itself isn't serviceable.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 02:48 PM

And is expensive.. Piece of shit they are..



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:21 PM

Sounds about right.

 

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 03:36 PM

Ive herd about buying it from the states as they are allot cheaper.



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Posted 02 July 2013 - 04:12 PM

If your viscous coupling is the problem you're having, I may have a spare if you need it. Out of a gen 1 liberty box, but I'm unsure on compatibility.

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Posted 02 July 2013 - 05:22 PM

There is a Phase 1 which is up to 1998 and Phase 2 which is 1999 onwards.

 

So i'll be needing a Phase 2. Thanks for the offer.







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