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#1 Dimeb4g

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 01:37 AM

so life is about to change, big time... and space is of the essence...

now as some of you know, i am a photographer by trade...
so i have to carry this.... Posted Image

and room for this as well...Posted Imageplus this....Posted Image
the B4 isnt going to cut it...
Now i need a wagon... ruled out the forester, i like the ride of the lib/legacy...

now what i want is some opinions on the 2 above mentioned models...
i like the look of both models... but i actually DO like the way the TT drives...

what concerns me is hows the build quality of the gen 4? i find the gen 3 build quality great, and i think the jdm stuff would be superb...

is there much difference in the performance? the numbers are similar...

any other comments of note please let me know....

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2nd: Gen 2 RX... Loved and lost...
3rd: 1995 Toyota Corolla which drove from Cairns to Bunbury in 5 Days! 6610km!!! didnt miss a beat.
4th: Gen1 GX bought for $500 went like stink... looked like what caused the stink
5th: More civilized now... with a Heritage Wagon... now gone...
6th Mitsubishi KJ Verada..."its nothing like a suby" now gone...
7th: 2002 B4 Liberty TT....

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:04 AM

Buy a GEN4 GT wagon.

Or buy a forester xt ;)

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:44 AM

Buy a GEN4 GT wagon.


+1.
Or a 3.0L Outback or Liberty.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:45 AM

Gen 4 GT.

Very well put together cars and even though the earliest ones were made in 2003, they still look very modern :)

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:11 AM

Gen4 3.0L Wagon.
 


I put up with people from amnesty, red cross and now the cancer council almost daily hounding me!! Throw in the greens, green peace, unhcr, save the forking children and I've well and truly hit my limit for the number of fuckstains wanting me to sign something or give money. Seriously cubts,  :fork: right off.
 

 

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:14 AM

Gen4 3.0L Wagon.

+1. I mean I love my Gen 3 GTB to bits but a Gen4 3.0L would be the shizzz

SOLD Legacy GTB 

SOLD Gen 1 RS turbo wagon

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:16 AM

Gen 4

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:22 AM

i thought this was supposed to be a debate?

Gen 4 GT

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:25 AM

it is aek, just very one sided.

or a tuned by sti GT......

SOLD Legacy GTB 

SOLD Gen 1 RS turbo wagon

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:43 AM

same as...my life has changed since last year...i had 3 dogs as a start (for retrieving trials) then got a bub (she will be 2yrsold this may) also with a pram that alwys comes with it wherever we go and a lil bit of phtography (basic kits).
+1 on Gen IV GT Lib or Forester XT (trying to convinced my mrs to get Foz XT just for the roomy space) hahaha.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:44 AM

Gen 2






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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:03 AM

Gen 4!

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:23 AM

Gen 2

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I put up with people from amnesty, red cross and now the cancer council almost daily hounding me!! Throw in the greens, green peace, unhcr, save the forking children and I've well and truly hit my limit for the number of fuckstains wanting me to sign something or give money. Seriously cubts,  :fork: right off.
 

 

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 09:58 AM

Gen 4 wagon.

5 star safety rating for the little bub (congrats by the way!) compared to the 4 star rating of the Gen 3.

Plus, they're great to drive.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:13 AM

Gen 2






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Also, I'd vote Gen4 Outback 3.0R Premium.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:15 AM

I dont know why the B4 wouldn't be enough... I have a stoller in the boot, baby seat in the middle back seat and still have heaps of room....

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:20 AM

Hi,

To elaborate mate, considering you live down here as well, the OBK could be something to really look at. Ride comfort is untouchable in stock form (mine is dumb), the H6 will net you sub 9L/100k - though fully loaded it'll probably be effected a bit. Also, geographically... do you really want another boosted Subaru? I think it could be quite some time before Bunvegas has the support network you'd want.

If you have your heart set on a manual, the OBK is already off the list though I guess. But if you're ummin' and ahhin' - drive one, heck, drive mine - most people have only driven the 4AT box on a Subaru, and if that's the only exposure you've had, I would implore you to try a 5AT.

I'm not just saying this because my car is for sale.

@Zac: While you CAN fit everything into a sedan, it's undeniable that the process of stacking and unstacking is made a skillion times easier with a wagon. Especially for a keen eyed professional photographer that see's a 'perfect shot' out the corner of their eye.

Cheers,
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:44 AM

Hi,

To elaborate mate, considering you live down here as well, the OBK could be something to really look at. Ride comfort is untouchable in stock form (mine is dumb), the H6 will net you sub 9L/100k - though fully loaded it'll probably be effected a bit. Also, geographically... do you really want another boosted Subaru? I think it could be quite some time before Bunvegas has the support network you'd want.

If you have your heart set on a manual, the OBK is already off the list though I guess. But if you're ummin' and ahhin' - drive one, heck, drive mine - most people have only driven the 4AT box on a Subaru, and if that's the only exposure you've had, I would implore you to try a 5AT.

I'm not just saying this because my car is for sale.

@Zac: While you CAN fit everything into a sedan, it's undeniable that the process of stacking and unstacking is made a skillion times easier with a wagon. Especially for a keen eyed professional photographer that see's a 'perfect shot' out the corner of their eye.

Cheers,
Nik

Good point... I can see why a wagon might come in handy then... I guess I upgraded from a Lancer Sedan to a B4 for space for the baby, and thought that was all I'd need...

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:47 AM

The worst design feature about the B4 and the Gen 4 Sedan is that the bloody rear seats don't fold down like they do in the Gen 2!

Is it really that hard to add folding rear seats for extra storage??

Actually, now that I think about it, they probably do it for a reason to make you buy the wagon which is more expensive.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:51 AM

The worst design feature about the B4 and the Gen 4 Sedan is that the bloody rear seats don't fold down like they do in the Gen 2!

Is it really that hard to add folding rear seats for extra storage??

Actually, now that I think about it, they probably do it for a reason to make you buy the wagon which is more expensive.

Lol.. I see your point... so far I haven't had a reason to fold down the rear seats though and with the baby seat there, it wouldn't be something I'd ever do unless I really had to...

But going from a 1999 Lancer CE VRX sedan to the B4, the boot space is huge in the B4 by comparison...

The wagon does look pretty good though..

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