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[Soop]

Wouldnt bother converting it buddy, just buy a B4 for 15k

[Scuba-Roo]

Sooo...

Some of yuou might be aware that I've been banging on about selling the Lib and getting something different.

After having a good hard think about it, chatting to the missus, family, e.t.c. I've decided that the Lib is staying.

Not too sure what I was thinking really as it's quite a good car really. However, there's a few things that I'm looking at to try and make it an even better car.

Few questions:

1. What are the best springs to use with my Billies. I'd like to lower it a little bit as the Billies have raised the ride height.. Keep in mind that I don't want too harsh a ride, just a nice height to fill in the gaurds, like what Kings deliver from standard struts.

2. This one is really left of field but bare with me. When cruising at 100kph in 5th, the engine spins at just under 3000rpm. I honestly believe that the car would cruise more nicely at around 2000rpm and improve highway fuel consumption and crusing comfort. Is there a way to acheive this? Do I need to have a 6th gear or can I get the ratios changed on the current 5MT? Or, am I just being silly?

3. Has anyone found of a way or head of a way to make the steering rack both tilt and telescopic, instead of just tilt. Seriously guys, how much better would this make the driving position in a Gen3?

4. If I was to humour the idea of a single turbo conversion, what sort of $$'s am I looking at? The whole thing from go to whoa with decent components.
Don't get too excited lads, just investigting at the moment!

5. Anyone know any good paint shops in Melb? I want to get my front and rear bars, skirts resprayed and a few other things touched up all over the car... Might even contemplate a full respray at some stage. (If conversion went ahead, it would be after that of course).

ah good to see your keeping her, with all the servicing you've had done to keep the car so efficent and clean it nearly seems stupid to give it up

with the cruising at 3000pm could changing the tyre size help this?


turbo conversion probably speak to AM autos

[Soop]

3000rpm!? Are you sure man, it should be more like 2200rpm, IIRC thats what my old POS used to do at 100kmh. I'd budget 10k if you were to pay someone to do it. Just as a rough figure and for the WRX deal. (I'm sure someone will confirm.)

[Scuba-Roo]

yours was an auto though, from my experience they rev lower...

[SUBARU]

Wouldnt bother converting it buddy, just buy a B4 for 15k

15k for a POS with heaps of k's and needing converting to single and new suspension, brakes, seats, blah blah blah... By the time I bother getting rid of my car, which is a great base, to a car of questionable history and build it back up.... No thanks.

ah good to see your keeping her, with all the servicing you've had done to keep the car so efficent and clean it nearly seems stupid to give it up

with the cruising at 3000pm could changing the tyre size help this?


turbo conversion probably speak to AM autos

Changing tyre sizes will only help marginally. Already sent a message to AM.

3000rpm!?

Are you sure man, it should be more like 2200rpm, IIRC thats what my old POS used to do at 100kmh.

I'd budget 10k if you were to pay someone to do it. Just as a rough figure and for the WRX deal. (I'm sure someone will confirm.)

Yup. No idea why! Even after having it for 3 years, I still sometimes check that it's not in 4th gear on the freeway! It easily cruises along at 1800 to 2200 rpm, so I don't know why the final ratio is so short.

[CRUISN]

Mine sits on about the 3K mark @ 100. Those Teins are for a GTB. So they will be right for the Billies although the spring rates may be a fraction different due to being for a wagon, although i dont think this would be of too much concern.

[SUBARU]

Thanks again Mark, you're a wealth of knowledge. Any idea what sort of ride height these will give compared to what I've got now? So, I've also ordered a few other things... 1. A new Liberty badge fro the rear, the old one was all crappy and the "L" fell off when I was trying to clean it! 2. From and rear chunky mud spats. Will be picking them up from Subaru tomorrow. Don't ask how much! I could have probably gotten them all for cheaper, but I wanted them now.

[SUBARU]

Need a relatively quick answer here! Will STI Pinks fit nicely with my Billies and drop it to a good level?

[Soop]

yours was an auto though, from my experience they rev lower...

Dude. Its in the final drive.

My auto was 4.11
Chris' is 4.11.
Should rev the same. Chris, clutch not mcfugged?

Unless the gear ratio's are homosexual, which wouldnt make any sence at all.

[SUBARU]

Dude. Its in the final drive.

My auto was 4.11
Chris' is 4.11.
Should rev the same. Chris, clutch not mcfugged?

Unless the gear ratio's are homosexual, which wouldnt make any sence at all.

Gear ratios will be totally different between manual and auto.

Clutch is fine! It's relatively new.. Had it put in when I did the solid flywheel conversion.

Spoke to Al about it and he said that the 5th gear in them is **** and the only way around it would be to go for an STi 5spd which would spin at about 2500rpm, or to go for a 6spd, but they are more designed for the current 2.5's.

[buddylove]

that rpm is normal chris. my old rx did the same rpm at that speed.long drives down to coffs i would cringe if i ever sat on 125kph.. rpm would be like 3,400 rpm.. the gen 2 lx auto i had before the rx, sat on around 2,500 rpm at 100kph... the b4 sits on 2,900 at 110kph.. or roundabouts.. nice and that new plastic console stuff you grabbed... man, im kinda jealous. how much did you pick it up for if you dont mind me asking. im going to keep my eye out for one.

[SUBARU]

that rpm is normal chris. my old rx did the same rpm at that speed.long drives down to coffs i would cringe if i ever sat on 125kph.. rpm would be like 3,400 rpm..

the gen 2 lx auto i had before the rx, sat on around 2,500 rpm at 100kph...

the b4 sits on 2,900 at 110kph.. or roundabouts.. nice


and that new plastic console stuff you grabbed... man, im kinda jealous. how much did you pick it up for if you dont mind me asking. im going to keep my eye out for one.

Good to know mate!

I'll either have to live with the gearbox or change it. Dunno...

Yeah the console trim should look the goods. All up it's $150 delivered. I think that there were a couple on there, so have a good look around!

[SUBARU]

Just bumping this cos ther eare more people online now and I want to know if STI pinks will suit my Billies and what sort of ride height I'd expect compared to Teins. Looks like Teins are more of a progessive spring right?

[CRUISN]

Are they Pinks made for the Billies or for STi struts? I have bought STi pinks from Japan made for the Gen2 Billies drop it 30mm (genuine factory option I believe )

[SUBARU]

Not sure mate...

These are the pinks.

http://www.importmon.....tle=STI Pinks

[CRUISN]

Buy them NOW. That is all.

[SUBARU]

I know! I want to but I'm not sure whether they are for billies or not!

[CRUISN]

Clarify with Shane as he has an RSK the equivalent of a GTB. The pinks are listed as for the B4 which may not get the Billies like the RSK. But Shane (legacy rsk) should know.

[SUBARU]

Good idea, thanks!

[legacy rsk]

b4 turbo is a b4 rsk no different. tein springs are the same for wagon and sedan no different....shane