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[duncanm]

good to know for future reference, thanks.

[duncanm]

ok - new drive gear arrived at work today and I got stuck into it after dinner tonight.

Pushed (well, drove) on the bearing, measured the relevant distances -- same as old drive gear. No change in spacer washers.

Slapped it in. Bolted everything back together, put a nolathane front shift stay bush in while I was there, alarming noises gone.
 
win.

One other slightly alarming thing I found while in there was the center diff.  The viscous retaining spiral ring looked like it has started to pop out of its groove.  Bad things happen if this occurs.  I managed to tap it back in place (sort of screwing it back in).

 

Here it is before I fixed it, you can see the end of the spiral ring poking proud of the surface.
 
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[duncanm]

So after running the new transfer gears and bearings for a little, I drained the gearbag oil (Castrol) just to check its health.  I've replaced it with Penrite Full Synth 75W90 GL5.

 

Cold shifting is definitely better -- haven't really noticed any difference once warm.

 

The poly front shift stay bush has firmed up the shift nicely.  No real noticeable increase in NVH.

 

Went and bought a proper turbo gearbox dipstick -- but its not the same length as the N/A one..  I presume the dipstick tube on top of the gearbox is a different length.  Will have to keep my eye out at a wrecker and see if I can just pull the tube off a turbo box (I'm guessing its an interference fit).

[El_Freddo]

Best of luck swapping one of those tubes. You're correct in that the turbo dipstick tube being longer, hence the turbo dipstick being longer. I'm glad you didn't drop your oil level because the new dipstick said to...

As for the tube, I've not had one out and I reckon it's one of those cold press fits so there's no chance of oil coming out.

I'd love a dip stick tube that's higher - less chance of water getting into the gearbox and easier to make up a breather fitment for it too IMO.

Cheers

Bennie

[duncanm]

Finally (2 years after the fact!) got around to fixing up my cruise control.

 

Yesterday I buzzed out the cruise switch + module -- all ok except for a missing ground on the cruise switch. Fixed that, and bolted the cruise actuator to a suitable point on the firewall.

 

Then this morning I made up a bracket for the cruise throttle cable (inspired by someone else here recently if I recall correctly) -- needs to anchor in a different spot, as the bracket to throttle wheel distance is about an inch longer than the outback.

 

The bolt for the plastic engine cover holds it down, while the bent tab at the front anchors it.

 

[Barbbachello]

Who says you need a GD engine for cruise control on a turbot conversion . Looks good

[Lukeoly]

Nice work on the cable mount man. I've missed having cruise so much.

I picked up a Bugeye cruise module last weekend. By the looks of it, the module is identical to the BH one but just has a longer cable. We'll see how the install goes this weekend.

[duncanm]

Been having some issues with sticky front calipers.

Rebuilt the spare pair I had with new seals, boots etc and slapped them on today.

Strangely, the GTB calipers (my 'spares') have a different mounting plate (or whatever its called, the bit that bolts to the hub) which don't clear the little perpendicular protuberance that is on one end of the outer brake pad. Put it all in with a 'half and half' pairing of outback plate and GTB caliper.

I need to put new pads in, so I'll investigate further then - I'm not entirely comfortable with mixing brake components.

EDITED - I think the spring protuberance is the audible wear indicator ?

[cowie165]

Duncan this is slight OT with your brakes, but wanted to ask if the cruise control is an easy fit? Pull the parts from EJ25 and grab a steering wheel back cup and cruise stalk? Just wanted to check it works independent of the ECU etc.

[duncanm]

Yup,

cruise is independent of ECM. I think you just need the control box (left of glovebox), cruise actuator, switch and stalk, and it taps into the speed signal. Will probably also need to add clutch and brake switches.

I can post a couple of wiring diagrams -- none of them were 'quite right' - but mostly correct.

[Reevesy]

Duncan this is slight OT with your brakes, but wanted to ask if the cruise control is an easy fit? Pull the parts from EJ25 and grab a steering wheel back cup and cruise stalk? Just wanted to check it works independent of the ECU etc.

Got a parts car you can pull everything out if you want.

[cowie165]

Got a parts car you can pull everything out if you want.

 

Ooo, sold! Trade you a space saver spare for cruise bits

[cowie165]

Yup,

cruise is independent of ECM. I think you just need the control box (left of glovebox), cruise actuator, switch and stalk, and it taps into the speed signal. Will probably also need to add clutch and brake switches.

I can post a couple of wiring diagrams -- none of them were 'quite right' - but mostly correct.

 

No rush, but when you get the time that would be awesome. RevC should match perfectly and a headstart would be great, thanks duncan

[duncanm]

Ok - cruise.

Here's the two diagrams I have.

First is out of my '1998-2003 FSM', but is not entirely correct. My cruise actuator, for instance, has 4 pins, not 6, and some of the pins to the cruise module are wrong.

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The second is actually US (I think) - from Gen2 -- but maybe my gen3 is early enough ('99) that it uses this cruise control module and actuator.  I have a small vacuum pump and a vac-actuated cruise throttle cable.

This one is almost correct - it shows the correct cruise module and actuator pins, however

• colours are mostly wrong
• ground of pin 6 on the cruise switch is via SMJ:M2
• other connections that are marked as going through 'B38' pass through the SMJ (B36 - pins match the above FSM diagram, I think)
• power goes to FB-10 (brake switch) and FB-20 (pin12 on cruise module)
• pins and connectors more closely reflect the FSM above, rather than this diagram
• I tapped into the speed sensor signal at the SMJ B36:E4

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Don't forget to pinch both the clutch and brake NC switches from your donor - and the wiring and plug to the cruise module (which is what made it obvious to me, for instance, that the FSM wiring diagram I had was wrong)

[duncanm]

Been having some issues with sticky front calipers.

Rebuilt the spare pair I had with new seals, boots etc and slapped them on today.

Strangely, the GTB calipers (my 'spares') have a different mounting plate (or whatever its called, the bit that bolts to the hub) which don't clear the little perpendicular protuberance that is on one end of the outer brake pad. Put it all in with a 'half and half' pairing of outback plate and GTB caliper.

I need to put new pads in, so I'll investigate further then - I'm not entirely comfortable with mixing brake components.

EDITED - I think the spring protuberance is the audible wear indicator ?

 

derrr...  so the reason the mounting plates are different is because the other ones I have are for the smaller (277?) rotor - not only won't the audible wear indicator fit, but they won't fit over the rotor.. Caliper itself seems the same, so I'm sticking to my hybrids.

 

New 294mm rotors ($55 ea at Repco. Made by NTK), new fluid and QFM HPX pads went on tonight.  Bedded them in and we're good to go.

[Dinka]

How well is the Stock Drivetrain holding up ?

[duncanm]

stock drivetrain seems ok.

 

It certainly not pristine -- the rear diff bushes need attention, and maybe other bushes in the back, synchros are getting a bit tired in 2nd and third.  But its done 270k or so - I put that down to normal wear and tear.

 

I don't thrash it too often, though.

[Robert]

Along as you don't do clutch dumps the driveline should hold up perfectly fine

i think the tt set up would be nicer on the box than a single turbo
As the power not a sudden surge, slightly more progrsssive

[duncanm]

Score.

 

MRT 3" stainless, full turbo back, divorced downpipe... and an oxy sensor thrown in.

 

You don't want to know what I paid for it.

 

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[Barbbachello]

fiddy bucks?